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is 100% PDR really is 100%?
#1
Test 100% PDR vs Snail hit 600k dmg

Test 100% PDR vs Cygnus Knight at StrongHold hit 540k dmg

Test 120% PDR vs Snail hit 610k dmg

Test 120% PDR vs Cygnus Knight at StrongHold hit 560k dmg


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Test 150% PDR vs Snail hit 625k dmg f6

Test 150% PDR vs Cygnus KNight at StrongHOld hit 590k dmg wtp is going on
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#2
MASTERY IS SO AMAZING.

No seriously what are you asking? 100% Ignore PDR has been working fine for a long ass time.
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Locked Wrote:MASTERY IS SO AMAZING.

No seriously what are you asking? 100% Ignore PDR has been working fine for a long ass time.

isnt 100% pdr is 100% and any more than 100% u wont hit more dmg?
but why do u hit more when u get more than 100% ??

maybe does it have to do with nexon chaos pb with 180% pdr?

maybe the 200% pdr is the new 100% pdr who know?
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#4
Question Wrote:but why do u hit more when u get more than 100% ??

Because mastery exists. Because criticals exist.

Could post some numbers.. you know.
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#5
Locked Wrote:Because mastery exists. Because criticals exist.

Could post some numbers.. you know.

in the meantime while he does that, i have a question, any idea how the defense up skill works? i have a fairly big amount of ignore (90%), but every time CHT used def up, my crit damage went from 670-700k to 580ish k
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:in the meantime while he does that, i have a question, any idea how the defense up skill works? i have a fairly big amount of ignore (90%), but every time CHT used def up, my crit damage went from 670-700k to 580ish k

I believe its like meso guard and similar skills. A % reduction that cant be ignored.
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#7
ShinkuDragon Wrote:in the meantime while he does that, i have a question, any idea how the defense up skill works? i have a fairly big amount of ignore (90%), but every time CHT used def up, my crit damage went from 670-700k to 580ish k

8810105.skill2?

Cuts damage to 85%.
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#8
Locked Wrote:8810105.skill2?

Cuts damage to 85%.

ok, perfect thanks.
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#9
You can crash the defense up skill, but they can still rebuff it during crash...

And uhh... I think Empress has tons more wdef/mdef than a snail.
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#10
Sephie Wrote:You can crash the defense up skill, but they can still rebuff it during crash...

And uhh... I think Empress has tons more wdef/mdef than a snail.

he's attacking a knight* but his numbers have no proof or anything on which locked or i would be able to base any calculations
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#11
ShinkuDragon Wrote:he's attacking a knight* but his numbers have no proof or anything on which locked or i would be able to base any calculations

They still have more WDEF/MDEF than a snail...

Unless of course he's using Sacrifice.
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#12
Sephie Wrote:They still have more WDEF/MDEF than a snail...

Unless of course he's using Sacrifice.

that's his issue, he has 100% ignore, which is the same sacrifice has, albeit using a different method.

it shouldn't matter, as long as i have 100% ignore, my impale should hit the same in a snail as it should in castle
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#13
ShinkuDragon Wrote:that's his issue, he has 100% ignore, which is the same sacrifice has, albeit using a different method.

it shouldn't matter, as long as i have 100% ignore, my impale should hit the same in a snail as it should in castle

There are some skills that ignore WDEF.

IIRC Shadower's (old) Assaulter ignored all WDEF on a target. The same is with Sacrifice + it completely ignores PDR as well.

That small difference in damage could just be from the mob's WDEF reducing his damage... unless he's using Sacrifice.
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#14
Question Wrote:isnt 100% pdr is 100% and any more than 100% u wont hit more dmg?
but why do u hit more when u get more than 100% ??

maybe does it have to do with nexon chaos pb with 180% pdr?

maybe the 200% pdr is the new 100% pdr who know?
You aren't making any sense at all.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:that's his issue, he has 100% ignore, which is the same sacrifice has, albeit using a different method.

it shouldn't matter, as long as i have 100% ignore, my impale should hit the same in a snail as it should in castle

Are you confusing WDEF ignore and PDR ignore?
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#16
Turtally Wrote:Are you confusing WDEF ignore and PDR ignore?

There is no such thing as WDEF ignore.
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#17
JoeTang Wrote:There is no such thing as WDEF ignore.

That's mind boggling.

EDIT: further reasoning below...
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#18
JoeTang Wrote:There is no such thing as WDEF ignore.

Well derp. I was just going with what Sephie was saying.
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#19
Turtally Wrote:Are you confusing WDEF ignore and PDR ignore?

explain? wdef doesn't exist anymore, all monsters have is %def, of which %ignore ignores a part of, if you have 100% PDRignore, that would mean you ignore 100% of the monster's defense, thus dealing all your damage.

this would mean that no matter what you attacked, your damage wouldn't change

defense got scrapped for %def at bigbang*
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:explain? wdef doesn't exist anymore, all monsters have is %def, of which %ignore ignores a part of, if you have 100% PDRignore, that would mean you ignore 100% of the monster's defense, thus dealing all your damage.

this would mean that no matter what you attacked, your damage wouldn't change

WDEF still exists on monsters @_@.

Snail has 10 WDEF; Empress has 1,700 WDEF.

And IIRC, PDR didn't exist preBB. Sacrifice back then ignored all defense.

Quote:Sacrifice
Attack one enemy regardless their weapon defense by sacrificing character's HP.
Level 30: MP -18; Basic attack 350%, sacrifice 5% HP from damage
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