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is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Question - 2012-07-16
Test 100% PDR vs Snail hit 600k dmg
Test 100% PDR vs Cygnus Knight at StrongHold hit 540k dmg
Test 120% PDR vs Snail hit 610k dmg
Test 120% PDR vs Cygnus Knight at StrongHold hit 560k dmg
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Test 150% PDR vs Snail hit 625k dmg f6
Test 150% PDR vs Cygnus KNight at StrongHOld hit 590k dmg wtp is going on
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Locked - 2012-07-16
MASTERY IS SO AMAZING.
No seriously what are you asking? 100% Ignore PDR has been working fine for a long ass time.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Question - 2012-07-16
Locked Wrote:MASTERY IS SO AMAZING.
No seriously what are you asking? 100% Ignore PDR has been working fine for a long ass time.
isnt 100% pdr is 100% and any more than 100% u wont hit more dmg?
but why do u hit more when u get more than 100% ??
maybe does it have to do with nexon chaos pb with 180% pdr?
maybe the 200% pdr is the new 100% pdr who know?
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Locked - 2012-07-16
Question Wrote:but why do u hit more when u get more than 100% ??
Because mastery exists. Because criticals exist.
Could post some numbers.. you know.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-16
Locked Wrote:Because mastery exists. Because criticals exist.
Could post some numbers.. you know.
in the meantime while he does that, i have a question, any idea how the defense up skill works? i have a fairly big amount of ignore (90%), but every time CHT used def up, my crit damage went from 670-700k to 580ish k
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - RedRaven16 - 2012-07-16
ShinkuDragon Wrote:in the meantime while he does that, i have a question, any idea how the defense up skill works? i have a fairly big amount of ignore (90%), but every time CHT used def up, my crit damage went from 670-700k to 580ish k
I believe its like meso guard and similar skills. A % reduction that cant be ignored.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Locked - 2012-07-16
ShinkuDragon Wrote:in the meantime while he does that, i have a question, any idea how the defense up skill works? i have a fairly big amount of ignore (90%), but every time CHT used def up, my crit damage went from 670-700k to 580ish k
8810105.skill2?
Cuts damage to 85%.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-16
Locked Wrote:8810105.skill2?
Cuts damage to 85%.
ok, perfect thanks.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Sephie - 2012-07-16
You can crash the defense up skill, but they can still rebuff it during crash...
And uhh... I think Empress has tons more wdef/mdef than a snail.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-16
Sephie Wrote:You can crash the defense up skill, but they can still rebuff it during crash...
And uhh... I think Empress has tons more wdef/mdef than a snail.
he's attacking a knight* but his numbers have no proof or anything on which locked or i would be able to base any calculations
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Sephie - 2012-07-16
ShinkuDragon Wrote:he's attacking a knight* but his numbers have no proof or anything on which locked or i would be able to base any calculations
They still have more WDEF/MDEF than a snail...
Unless of course he's using Sacrifice.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-16
Sephie Wrote:They still have more WDEF/MDEF than a snail...
Unless of course he's using Sacrifice.
that's his issue, he has 100% ignore, which is the same sacrifice has, albeit using a different method.
it shouldn't matter, as long as i have 100% ignore, my impale should hit the same in a snail as it should in castle
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Sephie - 2012-07-16
ShinkuDragon Wrote:that's his issue, he has 100% ignore, which is the same sacrifice has, albeit using a different method.
it shouldn't matter, as long as i have 100% ignore, my impale should hit the same in a snail as it should in castle
There are some skills that ignore WDEF.
IIRC Shadower's (old) Assaulter ignored all WDEF on a target. The same is with Sacrifice + it completely ignores PDR as well.
That small difference in damage could just be from the mob's WDEF reducing his damage... unless he's using Sacrifice.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Bomber - 2012-07-16
Question Wrote:isnt 100% pdr is 100% and any more than 100% u wont hit more dmg?You aren't making any sense at all.
but why do u hit more when u get more than 100% ??
maybe does it have to do with nexon chaos pb with 180% pdr?
maybe the 200% pdr is the new 100% pdr who know?
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Turtally - 2012-07-16
ShinkuDragon Wrote:that's his issue, he has 100% ignore, which is the same sacrifice has, albeit using a different method.
it shouldn't matter, as long as i have 100% ignore, my impale should hit the same in a snail as it should in castle
Are you confusing WDEF ignore and PDR ignore?
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - JoeTang - 2012-07-16
Turtally Wrote:Are you confusing WDEF ignore and PDR ignore?
There is no such thing as WDEF ignore.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Sephie - 2012-07-16
JoeTang Wrote:There is no such thing as WDEF ignore.
That's mind boggling.
EDIT: further reasoning below...
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Turtally - 2012-07-16
JoeTang Wrote:There is no such thing as WDEF ignore.
Well derp. I was just going with what Sephie was saying.
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - ShinkuDragon - 2012-07-16
Turtally Wrote:Are you confusing WDEF ignore and PDR ignore?
explain? wdef doesn't exist anymore, all monsters have is %def, of which %ignore ignores a part of, if you have 100% PDRignore, that would mean you ignore 100% of the monster's defense, thus dealing all your damage.
this would mean that no matter what you attacked, your damage wouldn't change
defense got scrapped for %def at bigbang*
is 100% PDR really is 100%? - Sephie - 2012-07-16
ShinkuDragon Wrote:explain? wdef doesn't exist anymore, all monsters have is %def, of which %ignore ignores a part of, if you have 100% PDRignore, that would mean you ignore 100% of the monster's defense, thus dealing all your damage.
this would mean that no matter what you attacked, your damage wouldn't change
WDEF still exists on monsters @_@.
Snail has 10 WDEF; Empress has 1,700 WDEF.
And IIRC, PDR didn't exist preBB. Sacrifice back then ignored all defense.
Quote:Sacrifice
Attack one enemy regardless their weapon defense by sacrificing character's HP.
Level 30: MP -18; Basic attack 350%, sacrifice 5% HP from damage