Sony under siege by Anonymous

Thought you were referring to a SPer for a moment.

Sorry Anonymous, I side with Sony this time.

I have the feeling that the aura around this whole situation is full of elitism and "because we can" attitude. Personally, I find that the issues being raised do a good thing for the law and judicial system in an increasingly integrated environment. But better effort and money can be spent by Anonymous doing things that aren't counterproductive, especially if said counterproductivity actually attains the ire of the people that you're siding with.

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Or you could filter out the tags if you find them to be so annoying.

microsoft don't sue any hacker, and still sell shitloads of xbox and still earn profit with multiplayer.

letting people jailbreak their system, will sell more ps3, and instead of making the psn free, make it P2P, job done.

i don't see sony sueing someone for throwing their ps3 into the wall, but when it get to their so called "most-security-system-ever-made-that-will-never-be-hacked", they get all butthurt and start hunting people like they are animals.

look what graf_chokolo said after being arrested in germany:

http://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=38904.0

“The SONY’s laywer asked me why I’m doing what I’m doing, because of my hatred for SONY? He cannot understand why I’m doing it, because he is paid for what he does. I’m not. I don’t hold a grudge against SONY even now Hatred clouds your mind, keeps you from more important things. I have a better use for my mind and knowledge.

“So, SONY you failed again, you took my equipment but my mind is still free and you canot (sic) control it. You failed again. They are just tools, I can get new ones and will continue my HV reversing and bringing back PS3 Linux which you took from us. If you want me to stop then you should just kill me because I cannot live without programming, HV and Linux kernel hacking You know who am I and where I live, so come and get me!!!”

Sony will never stop them, ad now that sony messed with hackers, they will never leave sony alone.

Why hackers don't bother with xbox and the live at all? coz microsoft dont sue every hacker that release a new unlock for the xbox.

microsoft don't sue any hacker, and still sell pomegranateloads of xbox and still earn profit with multiplayer.

letting people jailbreak their system, will sell more ps3, and instead of making the psn free, make it P2P, job done.

i don't see sony sueing someone for throwing their ps3 into the wall, but when it get to their so called "most-security-system-ever-made-that-will-never-be-hacked", they get all butthurt and start hunting people like they are animals.

look what graf_chokolo said after being arrested in germany:

http://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=38904.0



Sony will never stop them, ad now that sony messed with hackers, they will never leave sony alone.

Why hackers don't bother with xbox and the live at all? coz microsoft dont sue every hacker that release a new unlock for the xbox.

So basically might makes right?

Also Microsoft isn't unknown to court cases.

This is somewhat oldish news. The reason why the sites are available now is because the first attack went down on monday. A second attack started yesterday.

Hey Anonymous, just put together and fund consoles and devices that provides full freedom over their own devices. Kill them with competition if it bothers you guys so much.


if the people really want freedom that much: they'll bite.

Who am I kidding, they'll never be THAT organized and invested into helping us.

I do agree that there's a bit too much privacy invasion going on, however. No one protests anything anymore... cept for presidents >_>

Some people think that reputation doesn't matter, but it does.
Anonymous is teeter-tottering between "Internet Activists" & "Internet Terrorists"
If they make a bad name for the "freedom" of the Internet, they'll just fuel support for internet control laws. I understand their viewpoint, but they need to think a bit more globally before they act. Their actions can have disastrous effects. I'm not saying we should sit around and tolerate injustice, but there are right and wrong ways to protest something.

Sony, as I see it, has full right to "hunt down" the people who are hacking them.

Some people think that reputation doesn't matter, but it does.
Anonymous is teeter-tottering between "Internet Activists" & "Internet Terrorists"
If they make a bad name for the "freedom" of the Internet, they'll just fuel support for internet control laws. I understand their viewpoint, but they need to think a bit more globally before they act. Their actions can have disastrous effects. I'm not saying we should sit around and tolerate injustice, but there are right and wrong ways to protest something.

Sony, as I see it, has full right to "hunt down" the people who are hacking them.

This.

Besides, I don't think users are allowed to (by law) modify a copyright-protected/patented system in any way.

This.

Besides, I don't think users are allowed to (by law) modify a copyright-protected/patented system in any way.

Sony is only enforcing the law. It's like they are shanking you for not letting them steal from the store you own. That's why they will lose this time, they know they aren't big enough to attack the actual government, but they think they are big enough to attack a corporation. The law is behind sony, and it will be enforced.

This.

Besides, I don't think users are allowed to (by law) modify a copyright-protected/patented system in any way.

I can somewhat agree with Anon, and though I don't condone outright piracy, I still feel that if you buy a console you shouldn't be prosecuted just because you mod it, especially as much as they're charging for them.

Want to know whats funny? (And not really related)

Some of the United States government branches have bought many many many PS3's back when you could still use OtherOS and connected them together and use it like a supercomputer.

http://performancetrap.org/2010/01/28/ps...rcomputer/

Anonymous is starting to remind me of something.... what is it....... OH YEA

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I understand where they are coming from but if Sony did not stop these mods then people would use them for pirating. Pirating would put good game developing company's out of business and no gamer wants that.

Anonymous is starting to remind me of something.... what is it....... OH YEA

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I understand where they are coming from but if Sony did not stop these mods then people would use them for pirating. Pirating would put good game developing company's out of business and no gamer wants that.

Modding =/= pirating. When someone buys a chocolate bar, the chocolate and the wrapper and the contents inside the wrapper is theirs. I totally agree with what Anonymous is doing. Sony needs to stop being butthurt about their code.

Modding =/= pirating. When someone buys a chocolate bar, the chocolate and the wrapper and the contents inside the wrapper is theirs. I totally agree with what Anonymous is doing. Sony needs to stop being butthurt about their code.

Except you're wrong and that's not even close to a valid comparison. This mod allowed people to steal directly from the PSN and play pirated games on their PS3. This mod opened up the floodgates for everyone in the world to steal from Sony and they are absolutely not wrong for seeking compensation from the person who intentionally, knowingly burst the dam.

Except you're wrong and that's not even close to a valid comparison. This mod allowed people to steal directly from the PSN and play pirated games on their PS3. This mod opened up the floodgates for everyone in the world to steal from Sony and they are absolutely not wrong for seeking compensation from the person who intentionally, knowingly burst the dam.

Sure it gives them the capability to get another mod that has nothing to do with the original jailbreaking of the PS3, but it doesn't give them the tools to pirate games and DLC.

Sure it gives them the capability to get another mod that has nothing to do with the original jailbreaking of the PS3, but it doesn't give them the tools to pirate games and DLC.

So if I pick a lock and then show everyone the door is open I'm not in any way accountable for what happens afterward? Good to know.

So if I pick a lock and then show everyone the door is open I'm not in any way accountable for what happens afterward? Good to know.

You're saying that there is only one application for a jailbreak. Pirating is but one of thousands of applications that the PS3 has locked away inside.

While you all are fighting over all of this, the case has been settled and is over with.

In other news,

Anonymous is planning a sit in in sony style stores on the 16th.

Graf_Chokolo, a dev behind installing OtherOS back onto the PS3 (OtherOS was removed from the PS3 last April 1'st), had his house raided for a second time today. Police seized his PS3 and other hacking equipment for a second time.

While you all are fighting over all of this, the case has been settled and is over with.

In other news,

Anonymous is planning a sit in in sony style stores on the 16th.

Graf_Chokolo, a dev behind installing OtherOS back onto the PS3 (OtherOS was removed from the PS3 last April 1'st), had his house raided for a second time today. Police seized his PS3 and other hacking equipment for a second time.

How is that even legal? Didn't the U.S courts legalize jailbreaking of devices? Or was that just Apple products?

How is that even legal? Didn't the U.S courts legalize jailbreaking of devices? Or was that just Apple products?

Pretty much just phones. This is assuming it's only going to be used for downloading non-pre-approved applications, it's still illegal to pirate.

The upshot is that now anyone can jailbreak or otherwise unlock any cell phone without fear of legal penalties, whether you want to install unsupported applications or switch to another cellular carrier. Cell phone companies are of course still free to make it difficult for you to do this — and your warranty will probably still be voided if you do — but at least you won’t be fined or imprisoned if you jailbreak a handset.

In addition to the jailbreaking exemption, the FCC announced a few other rules that have less sweeping applicability but are still significant:

• Professors, students and documentary filmmakers are now allowed, for “noncommercial” purposes, to break the copy protection measures on DVDs to be used in classroom or other not-for-profit environments. This doesn’t quite go so far as to grant you and me the right to copy a DVD so we can watch it in two rooms of the house, but it’s now only one step away.

• As was the topic in the GE ruling I wrote about, the FCC allows computer owners to bypass dongles (hardware devices used in conjunction with software to guarantee the correct owner is behind the keyboard) if they are no longer in operation and can’t be replaced. Dongles are rarities in consumer technology products now, but industrial users are probably thrilled about this, as many go missing and are now impossible to obtain.

• Finally, people are now free to circumvent protection measures on video games — but, strangely, only to investigate and correct security flaws in those games. (Another oddity: Other computer software is not part of this ruling, just video games.)

Source

Be aware it's not illegal for companies to act. Apparently the droid does something like void the warranty of itself during software updates if the phones is jailbroken.

I don't think sony cares about their games being modded, problem is you can't open a game to "modding" without it also opening it to piracy and nearly every reason the Anons give for doing this is something that can be used against pirating and FOR sony's case.