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Sony under siege by Anonymous - Hanabira.Kage - 2011-04-07 Quote:Infamous hacking group Anonymous has successfully infiltrated several Sony websites including Sony.com and PlayStation.com. The group has also warned that they plan to attack the PlayStation Network and PlayStation Store next. (Source: Yahoo! News.)
I honestly don't know why Anonymous even bothers; no one's going to thank them for this; last I heard, the US PSN's near inaccessible due to Anonymous' DoS attack. Needless to say, PSP and PS3 players aren't happy at all. If they hack into the PSN and make everything FoC, or distribute certain DLC for free (like God Eater Burst's DLC; it was made pre-order exclusive in the US apart from 6 codes or so given out on Facebook), I'm sure all those players wouldn't mind rooting for them. As it stands, Anonymous members are just making themselves look more like cyber-terrorists than cyber-vigilantes. As far as I'm concerned, they really need to be much more concerned about their own image or they will be despised even by the people they're fighting for. In case anyone thinks otherwise, no I do not have anything against Anonymous nor am I against their actions. They do have a right to do whatever the hell they think is right, but they do have to keep in mind that there is a line they should never cross; while fighting for the people, do not ever harm the people. No, I do not condone their actions either. Just because they can (or are free) to do something doesn't mean that they should do it. There's a difference between rights and responsibilities. Sony under siege by Anonymous - Shidoshi - 2011-04-07 IMO, they don't need to care that much about their own image. They are already anonymous so they are not targettable and they don't get benefits from popularity. It's one of their advantages, they can fight for what they want without fear of backlash or need of approval (except of their own members). Sony under siege by Anonymous - Hanabira.Kage - 2011-04-07 Shidoshi Wrote:IMO, they don't need to care that much about their own image. They are already anonymous so they are not targettable and they don't get benefits from popularity. Even so, as it stands "Anonymous" as a whole currently has a very bad reputation. Even if there is no backlash, there will be hatred targeted at the group in its entirety.
Sony under siege by Anonymous - Satellite - 2011-04-07 I didn't see anything different at either sony.com or playstation.com Sony under siege by Anonymous - wobbufet - 2011-04-07 Hanabira.Kage Wrote: And this had been any different when? Anonymous has always done what they feel is right and they've always been hated by many. Sony under siege by Anonymous - Kalovale - 2011-04-07 ![]() Yeah, since when have Anonymous been doing good deeds? Once in a while their interest compass converges with the society's moral compass (discovering the identity of the cat torturer, I believe) but that would be insufficient to assume that they are in the slightest interested in what people think of them. In fact, no matter what incident involving Anonymous, it is easy to see the mentality behind their actions, they just feel like f'ucking around with it. Sony under siege by Anonymous - CrazyNomad - 2011-04-07 http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=797 Quote:OpSony Update, to all Sony under siege by Anonymous - Hanabira.Kage - 2011-04-07 Kalovale Wrote:Yeah, since when have Anonymous been doing good deeds? Once in a while their interest compass converges with the society's moral compass (discovering the identity of the cat torturer, I believe) but that would be insufficient to assume that they are in the slightest interested in what people think of them. Look at CrazyNomad's post. Well, though I really have to say this sounds kinda propaganda-ish. I mean like, duh who would say "HAHAHA WE DON'T GIVE A FLYING pineapple WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU" if they wish to garner public support? Perhaps I'm reading too much into it. In any case, I do think Anonymous can be trusted on their claim of "We are not aiming to attack customers of Sony". In any case, if they will not harm Sony customers in their endeavours, then I shall not delve any further into this matter. Still, there are some flaws in their argument: Quote:[Sony's] propaganda regarding jailbreaking implies that it encourages piracy and thereby makes people lose their jobs, whereas jailbreaking actually just means you are making YOUR device do what it should do. Think about it. Installing homebrew allows the player to just download games off of the web and play them. Sounds good, right? Perhaps it is. However, what about the companies who invested so much time, effort and money just to design and develop (and manufacture) those games? Surely they should earn some profit or at the very least break even. However, if everyone downloads a ripped version off of the internet and getting to play the game for free, that company is going to make a huge loss. Sony itself will lose out too, since Sony will also stand to profit from UMD purchases. Even if it is not Anonymous' intention, it is extremely likely that someone somewhere will exploit the custom firmware so as to play these ripped games. The world is not so simple; everything comes at a price. Nothing is completely free. If Sony decides to give in, I can guarantee that all those companies will eventually go bankrupt.
If Anonymous can guarantee that piracy will definitely not occur as a result of this, then I would have nothing more to say. Sony under siege by Anonymous - KhainiWest - 2011-04-07 Fuckin with a corporation like sony will have very bad backlash. Sony under siege by Anonymous - Hanabira.Kage - 2011-04-07 KhainiWest Wrote:Fuckin with a corporation like sony will have very bad backlash. Well, it will have a very negative impact on the reputation of the group as a whole, but there will be no repercussions to the individual members. Well, until they get tracked down. But that's a different story altogether.
Sony under siege by Anonymous - Fiel - 2011-04-07 They are targetable. Several members of Anonymous have been arrested for their actions against Paypal and VISA. Sony under siege by Anonymous - KhainiWest - 2011-04-07 Hanabira.Kage Wrote: I strongly believe that sony has the resources not too only protect themselves but retaliate 10x worse. Just my opinion though. Sony under siege by Anonymous - Shidoshi - 2011-04-07 Fiel Wrote:They are targetable. Several members of Anonymous have been arrested for their actions against Paypal and VISA.As much as they are/aren't targetable, it doesn't change that they are leaving a message. All rebellion, supressed or not, has its effects on the minds of people. Sony under siege by Anonymous - Kalovale - 2011-04-07 Hanabira.Kage Wrote: Wanting good for the public is not the same as bullpomegranateting to get a backbone. Sony is acting terribly like the DRM bunch, unable to transform to the digital world and thus insisting that everyone should/must stay physical. They seemed to have had no problems at all switching from CD to DVD to Blueray discs (because it wasn't really any change in technology at all), but once we hit the point where softwares are just what they are, entirely digital, they get stuck. Of course, no one is under the obligation to play Sony's consoles at all, it is a pleasure we pay for at a price. But from a radical bystandaer point of view, instead of thinking of solutions, Sony et al. are simply biting at whatever hands trying to steal food from them, inadvertently holding back the advances of information technology. Not that I suggest that it is wrong of Sony to be doing so, they have to feed their wives and kids too, who also happen to play their consoles. It is merely a pity. Sony under siege by Anonymous - 案山子 - 2011-04-07 [COLOR="blue"]Anonymous is like a mafia: The higher-ups may be intelligent, but the grunts are usually sloppy. A sloppy grunt gets mopped up.[/COLOR] Sony under siege by Anonymous - xAyakoCx - 2011-04-07 I hope they dont mess with my Sony Vegas because if they do, I'll have to have my laptop back to factory settings. Note to self: Dont go on the sony and PS sites. Sony under siege by Anonymous - Erebus - 2011-04-07 So basically went from an edgy rebellious group wanting openness in cooperate/government policies to terrorist complaining they can't "mod" the shirt off Laura Croft... As well nearly every action sony has taken is for a security measure, unless I see records of them selling the info off, I could care less. Sony under siege by Anonymous - Devil - 2011-04-07 Hanabira.Kage can
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Sony under siege by Anonymous - Sarah - 2011-04-07 Shidoshi Wrote:As much as they are/aren't targetable, it doesn't change that they are leaving a message. All rebellion, supressed or not, has its effects on the minds of people. The only impact is on the "minds" of sheep. Unfortunately, those sheep make up a large portion of the internet which is why Anonymous exists in the first place. And yeah, I agree with Dustin. Sony has big money behind them, and law. If GeoHotz had a case the only thing Anonymous is doing is harming it. Sony can easily use this to show why exactly limitations need to be imposed; this sense of entitlement from the children of the internet needs to be stomped on. All action like this encourages is heavy-handed retaliation -- more rules. They'll keep pushing until they pineapple with the wrong person or peoples and get slammed, be it personally, publicly or internationally. The more enemies they make the easier it becomes for this to get ugly. The support of a hundred thousand 8 year olds or 22 year old manchildren won't mean pomegranate against the corporations and governments of the world. Sony under siege by Anonymous - KhainiWest - 2011-04-07 Sarah Wrote:The only impact is on the "minds" of sheep. Unfortunately, those sheep make up a large portion of the internet which is why Anonymous exists in the first place. To be honest, though it won't apply to you in this case cus you're fortunately in canada, it'll just support the bill's legislation have been trying to pass to give the government the power of internet usage, much like china. |