2010-12-19, 03:27 PM
Quote:educate yourself, peach
Did it ever occur to you calling me "Peach" was something disrespectful? I do have a name.
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Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) policy fully repealed!
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2010-12-19, 03:27 PM
Quote:educate yourself, peach Did it ever occur to you calling me "Peach" was something disrespectful? I do have a name.
2010-12-19, 04:57 PM
Please do not call me "peach". I find that degrading and a pathetic attempt to call me some weak, clueless, soft little girl. You want to claim equality then treat other people with respect first. I have a name and by your standards... I'm nowhere near what a peach is. Calling me peach and then pushing a history lesson is just the same level of bigotry others do not want to be treated with.
I know about the GLBT movement history. Don't assume I don't know. While you're at it, why don't you take a lesson of your own playbook and learn to respect a woman with intelligence and might have a valid point... and as said calling me a Peach... is giving you no great platform to stand on. You want respect from others... then treat them with respect first even if they don't respect you at first. At least you can be the more civilized one and show a good example. You have no idea what kind of woman I am! Peach? Bah! I'm like a Cactus or Agave plant with cyanide poured all over the thorns! I might look like some typical asian chick, but I can fight like a mad dog, belch the alphabet, and probably drink you under the table. Good day sir!
2010-12-19, 05:01 PM
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:Please do not call me "peach". I find that degrading and a pathetic attempt to call me some weak, clueless, soft little girl. You want to claim equality then treat other people with respect first. I have a name and by your standards... I'm nowhere near what a peach is. Calling me peach and then pushing a history lesson is just the same level of bigotry others do not want to be treated with. The problem with this is that, aside from the massive derailment, you're refusing to acknowledge that you're using an incorrect mindset to push your ideas which have been discredited time and time again. There's only so much patience a person can stand from someone who is too stubborn to accept their defeat in an argument and continues to use the same fallacious statements.
2010-12-19, 05:02 PM
Then how is calling a woman who you don't know a name that can be derogatory not the same prejudice?
2010-12-19, 05:02 PM
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:Please do not call me "peach". I find that degrading and a pathetic attempt to call me some weak, clueless, soft little girl. You want to claim equality then treat other people with respect first. I have a name and by your standards... I'm nowhere near what a peach is. Calling me peach and then pushing a history lesson is just the same level of bigotry others do not want to be treated with. Why repeat that he called you a peach in each paragraph? To make a larger wall of text? How about you saying that the huge step forward that was the repeal of DADT was actually not that good for someone that is in direct concern of the results of such advancements? Is that not disrespect as well? Discussing with unnecessarily long texts and lack of logic about a subject that directly concerns another member is just as bad. Also, why don't you acknowledge the points people are making? You seem to simply skim-read the posts by other people and then repeat your own arguments without countering or providing good logic.
2010-12-19, 05:07 PM
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:Then how is calling a woman who you don't know a name that can be derogatory not the same prejudice? You're taking it out of context by saying "because A said B to me, then X says that to Y on a regular basis" within the grounds of servicemen and servicewomen. Him calling you a peach is his getting frustrated over trying to tell you you're points of logic are flawed, without even considering that people act differently in different situations, locations, and environments. If two people are arguing, usually one side will accept when they are beaten and either learn from the debate, or it leads to a stalemate where one side refuses to give in. That side more often than not is viewed as the ignorant party due to their lack of maturity in a debate. The whole point to this thread was how soldiers would act in a given scenario. They, as has been proven, will act for the greater good of their unit regardless of who is in it.
2010-12-19, 05:10 PM
Until you understand the foundations of society you can not make changes on the surface. You have to be patient with society to make changes, show respect, and take things slowly.
It doesn't matter what walk of life you come from. Until society is slowly re-educated to accept others for their differences problems will still occur. I never have said I wasn't against the DADT repeal either... all I'm saying is be careful with sensitive issues like this. If you know what a girl called a peach inclines you might better understand it. A peach is soft skinned, weak to attack, and is easily peeled and stripped of it's fruit. Now put that in the aspect of a woman and you call her weak minded, obedient, and more or less worthless except for her most basic of uses. I'm not a peach. I never have been. And to be called one is truly hurtful.
2010-12-19, 05:14 PM
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:Until you understand the foundations of society you can not make changes on the surface. You have to be patient with society to make changes, show respect, and take things slowly. Tell me then, do you truly understand the foundations of society? Then, answer if you understand the foundations of the military? There is no time for patience. You have a problem, you either get over it for the greater good of your unit, or you get crushed. That is the military, you adapt or you die. Like I said before, you're using a civilian mindset to rationalize the military. That is a laughably false argument.
2010-12-19, 05:26 PM
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:If you know what a girl called a peach inclines you might better understand it. A peach is soft skinned, weak to attack, and is easily peeled and stripped of it's fruit. Now put that in the aspect of a woman and you call her weak minded, obedient, and more or less worthless except for her most basic of uses. You should really educate yourself before you assume you know what's actually being said. http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=32680 Also, inclines and implies have no relation to each other. Thread locked until people have had time to do a little more thinking and/or research before continuing this absurd little merry go round.
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