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What's with all the hate against Obama?
#21
The one I remember had Abe and Truman in the top two slots, and it was conducted by educated scholars. Not polling the population. The general population full of idiots.
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#22
Hazzy Wrote:He turned a record surplus into a deficit. How the hell did he "not do bad"?

Multiple economies and therefore governments were surfing the dotcom bubble. Then that bubble burst.

Greenspan pulled the interest rates down to offset the economic effects of the bubble bursting. Then the 9/11 disaster spun the economy further down. Engaging two unnecessary wars didn't help either. Greenspan's terrible money policy helped the country hit a deficit much faster than it should have.

Everything contributed to the mortgage crisis, which led to the Wall Street crisis, which leaves us at the economic ruin we've dealt with these past few years.

It wasn't just Bush. That budget surplus would have easily been wiped out even if Clinton had a 3rd term and kept his ENTIRE policy the same. Yes, Clinton was constantly pressured to spend, and held his ground regardless, leading to surpluses. But in hindsight, that could very well have been a mistake.

Bush inherited a $150 billion surplus, of which not a penny was spent by Clinton to proactively offset the impending tech bubble burst. This is something not even Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government will admit. Of course, Bush simply cut taxes hoping to ride that surplus for as long as possible, which was just as bad a mistake as Clinton's.

It is no surprise why the Bush era cost 11.5 trillion dollars: Bush messed up, Congress messed up for letting 2 wars happen, the then Federal Reserve messed up, and people got greedy with speculation and jumping into mortgages they knew they couldn't afford, which helped derivatives markets get greedy as well.
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#23
Actually click on the link and look at the table, Hazzy. The table is full of polls of educated political scholars. No, none of them have Lincoln and Truman at the same ranks you recall, most likely because this is only one collaborative table amidst the thousands of like polls throughout the years. But it's still a legitimate rank list from educated scholars.
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#24
The way i see it is this way: The president is the figure head of the entire country. If something goes wrong, it's the person who runs the country that gets the crap for it (meaning the president). This happenes even when Congress and the senate override presidential authority. Blame the leader for something that goes wrong.
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#25
.....going on, when I mean people got greedy with speculation, I mean damn greedy. It's a lesson learned for everyone, especially Harvard, who lost 8-11 billion for being greedy douches.

http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/dipl...s-billions
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#26
Omni Wrote:http://whatthef'uckhasobamadonesofar.com/

Seriously. Take out the ' that is behind the f, and in front of the u.

one of my friends sent me this and i just laughed in his face. It was at the time literally a list of 52 things most of which all he had to do was sign and had no part in their drafting. The START treaty thing would have been brought before whatever presedent was up this term. Basically it's actually incredibly unimpressive. I sent in a few things that he did that seemingly accomplished nothing whatsoever but spent plenty of money. waiting if the people who made it are stupid enough to add it.
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#27
rayhovite Wrote:It wasn't just Bush. That budget surplus would have easily been wiped out even if Clinton had a 3rd term and kept his ENTIRE policy the same. Yes, Clinton was constantly pressured to spend, and held his ground regardless, leading to surpluses. But in hindsight, that could very well have been a mistake.

Bush inherited a $150 billion surplus, of which not a penny was spent by Clinton to proactively offset the impending tech bubble burst. This is something not even Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government will admit. Of course, Bush simply cut taxes hoping to ride that surplus for as long as possible, which was just as bad a mistake as Clinton's.

Keep in mind that surplus=/=out of debt. That $150 billion wasn't just sitting around doing nothing. We were still in debt at that point in time.
Old article with rather humorous statements from Bush and Gore
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#28
Speaking of "risky" moves, bailing out GM was also something people had against Obama.

But if you check out the news, GM just raised the most epic Initial Public Offering in history, netting 23 billion.

Now that is serious ownage.
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#29
Companies hate nothing as much as being indebted to the government. They pay that pomegranate off fast.
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#30
hahaha, you sure about that? You should read more on the derivatives market, among other shady business types. Some hedge bets (such as that offered by AIG) basically put all their dollars on the government bailing out the company in case it messed up.
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#31
Sarah Wrote:You must be a Glenn Beck fan if you believe this, haha

Obama is a good president with great ideas, but there's a bunch of pineapplewad republicans standing in his way at every major decision. And Americans are too stupid to see that it's not actually his fault that nothing is getting done so they've begun voting Republican despite of the fact that it's their fault, which is worse because they now have the power to further tear apart what he has already accomplished, like healthcare.

THERE'S A BRICK WALL IN FRONT OF MY CAR I'D BETTER GET A NEW CAR

Wow, couldn't have said it better myself, and rayhovite you have a new fanboy.

Obviously sarah you dont buy a new car, you buy a tank!
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