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Avatar Spinoff Series Announced
#41
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#42
Sorien Wrote:I'd imagine that Aang would have tried to teach many young, promising students how to airbend. I mean, the art of bending was never implied to be a genetic trait, just something that people can learn when they try hard enough. If bending had indeed been genetic, then they would never have talked about the original benders learning from animals and space rocks.

It was, sort of. First we have the fact that during the 100 years Aang was gone not a single airbender came around, this could either be the fact that there was no one or nothing around to teach people airbending, or the fact that the entire population of the Air Temples were killed.

And then we have the fact that the southern water tribe had no more water benders until Katara, yet somehow the Fire nation knew about Katara and attacked the village. And also the fact that Sokka can't water bend, during the first of the series Sokka showed that he was a little bit jealous of Katara being able to water bend, so if bending was simply a try hard enough and learn it I am sure Sokka could have done it.


And finally there is the fact that there aren't more benders around, so that sort of implies even if bending was something you could learn through hard work that the person needs to be special enough to be able to learn how to bend. So while it might be a hard work thing it also seems like it is in part a genetic thing also.
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#43
MetaSeraphim Wrote:It was, sort of. First we have the fact that during the 100 years Aang was gone not a single airbender came around, this could either be the fact that there was no one or nothing around to teach people airbending, or the fact that the entire population of the Air Temples were killed.

Would you feel very strongly motivated to try to self teach a form of bending that had recently gotten an entire tribe wiped out? There are other factors at play in that 100 years.

Answer I read BTW is that it's neither strictly genetic nor taught - It's something that had to be awakened before it could be taught much the same way Aang severed it in Ozai. Benders can naturally awaken, especially if their parents already have it expressed, or can have it awakened later such as by the flying bison and the dragons or by encounters with spirit creatures or an Avatar.
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#44
As I've said before:
Not sure if want.

I'm glad it's a new Avatar series, but it's just that it doesn't seem like it'd be the same...
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#45
Eosian Wrote:Would you feel very strongly motivated to try to self teach a form of bending that had recently gotten an entire tribe wiped out? There are other factors at play in that 100 years.

With your point I make the counter point of Katara, with the fact of the Fire nation stealing every single water bender I really doubt Katara would be like I want to learn this. So like you said in the other part of your post it's something that is awakened in the bender.

Not fully genetic or taught makes the most sense.
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#46
I've always assumed it was passed on through genetics, but if one was to try hard enough (find someone with mystical powers that could give/awaken the bending abilities within the person, or spend their life learning from the natural things around them, such as the Bison or the Moles (whatever they're called)) they could acquire these bending abilities.

...I'm not making any sense today.
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y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:I've always assumed it was passed on through genetics, but if one was to try hard enough (find someone with mystical powers that could give/awaken the bending abilities within the person, or spend their life learning from the natural things around them, such as the Bison or the Moles (whatever they're called)) they could acquire these bending abilities.

...I'm not making any sense today.

Toph learned from badger moles, and her parents were normal humans, aristocracy aside. that shows its possible to become a bender without having the genetics.
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#48
This show is a LIE
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#49
derosis Wrote:This show is a LIE

Link?
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#50
derosis Wrote:This show is a LIE

Kurtle Wrote:Link?

He's lying.

A:TLK due to be released November 2011. Dammit... At least it's good knowing the original team that did A:TLA (the Track Team, Sifu Kisu, etc) are working on this one.

I still can't get over the idiot that is Shyamalan.
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#51
Kurtle Wrote:Link?

I know it isn't I just can't belive they would do a spinoff, I was going bonkers having to learn of another avatar....
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#52
TøbiasBlack Wrote:Toph learned from badger moles, and her parents were normal humans, aristocracy aside. that shows its possible to become a bender without having the genetics.

Ever heard of recessive traits?
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#53
Meh... I'm still pissed off at the "chi bending" cop out

though this seems like an apology from the creators
"Look guys were real sorry about the movie... hey look a new series!"

Considering how the show started to get "darker" as the series progressed in seasons i doubt this will be as light heart-ed as season 1 and probably be as giddy as season 3.

As far as Anng's death... he was flash frozen in a block of ice for 100 years if it makes you feel better he technically died at the age 163 but I'm surprised a human lasted a whole summer after being frozen for a century let alone for 50 years.
Though i thought the order was
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#54
Erebus Wrote:Meh... I'm still pissed off at the "chi bending" cop out

though this seems like an apology from the creators
"Look guys were real sorry about the movie... hey look a new series!"

Considering how the show started to get "darker" as the series progressed in seasons i doubt this will be as light heart-ed as season 1 and probably be as giddy as season 3.

As far as Anng's death... he was flash frozen in a block of ice for 100 years if it makes you feel better he technically died at the age 163 but I'm surprised a human lasted a whole summer after being frozen for a century let alone for 50 years.
Though i thought the order was

Incomplete thought...?

Energy bending was a decent cop out. to make a "young" person make the choice of kill or be killed would have been a little fucked up for a 10+ kids show. The energy bending also shows that even the Avatar, the greatest bender in the world, could be overcome with grief and conflict within themselves. It shows that though they posses god-like powers, they are still human.
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#55
Worthyness Wrote:The energy bending also shows that even the Avatar, the greatest bender in the world, could be overcome with grief and conflict within themselves. It shows that though they posses god-like powers, they are still human.

More importantly it showed that he didn't have to betray his beliefs and didn't have to kill to resolve the conflict despite it having been what everyone expected him to.
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#56
Eosian Wrote:More importantly it showed that he didn't have to betray his beliefs

I found that very selfish of Aang and showed just how spoiled he was. Despite the fact that another Airbender told him that sometimes you have to do something you don't want to for the greater good of the world he still whined about having to kill someone. And the whole thing about showing Ozai mercy by letting him live was also flawed since he'll most likely go through worst in prison than if he was killed by Aang.

And as for the whole thing about Aang killing Ozai being wrong for a kid's show, this is the same show that showed Firelords wiping out entire races, right?
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#57
Then we'll just have to disagree on the value of the message.
An 11 year old not wanting to compromise his beliefs and undermine the value of everything he's been taught and believes about the value and sanctity of life does not strike me as selfish.
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Worthyness Wrote:Incomplete thought...?

Energy bending was a decent cop out. to make a "young" person make the choice of kill or be killed would have been a little fucked up for a 10+ kids show. The energy bending also shows that even the Avatar, the greatest bender in the world, could be overcome with grief and conflict within themselves. It shows that though they posses god-like powers, they are still human.

A regular person yes. A person whoms suppose to protect the world and since like the second season has had to conteplate just how he was going to defete him without killing him... no. For a show so well known for its writting and chracter development it seems cheap to give him a deus ex machina abilty at the very last second. Seriously if it were introduced in season 2 (I'm not counting the lion turtle showing up in the book because that just showed the turtle, it said nothing about energy bending) or at least hinted at in season 3 i wouldn't have considered it a cop out but really it wouldn't have shown him as a betrayer of his beleifs if he killed Ozai, it would have shown that as the avatar he was willing to do what was right for the world at the cost for his beleifs.
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#59
Eosian Wrote:An 11 year old not wanting to compromise his beliefs and undermine the value of everything he's been taught and believes about the value and sanctity of life does not strike me as selfish.

It is selfish in his refusal to do anything he didn't want to do. Like when he was first told he was the avatar and ran off because he couldn't handle what was being put on him and basically got his whole race killed.

Aang showed so many times throughout the entire series just how selfish he was with various things.
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#60
Ya guys know he might've killed the Fire Lord if he never met the Lion Turtle.
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