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Power leveling services, legit or legit?
#21
Do you mean buying someone to go on your account to train from a website, or leeching? Because technically leeching isn't illegal since you're still on your account (unless you're botting a skill, which IS illegal), but having someone else come on your account is.

If it says not to do it in the ToS, it's illegitamate.
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#22
Kabanaw Wrote:Do you mean buying someone to go on your account to train from a website, or leeching? Because technically leeching isn't illegal since you're still on your account (unless you're botting a skill, which IS illegal), but having someone else come on your account is.

If it says not to do it in the ToS, it's illegitamate.

the little pop up tips explicitly state that account sharing and accounts that share can be banned. So "technically" power leveling is an offense that could result in being banned.
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#23
Avenge Wrote:silverbg2 > philzor LOL!!

You do know how SilverBg2 beat Philzor right? It was pretty lol as he put his z-helm selling buisness on hold (and had a pissed off buyer or two) as he was "power training to beat Philzor to 200", which made me chuckle knowing some dude from Egypt (least those are the rumors) was doing his training.

One of the more contraversial guilds in Scania has quite a few of their higher levels trained by some certain group of people and whatnot and I personally find that illigit. That being said, its their choice, not mine. Im not going to judge them based on those actions. Its their own "accomplishment" of 200 that's being tainted, not mine. I couldnt care less. All I can do is not use/buy these services myself.
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#24
Thunda Wrote:Illegit = those who hack or have benefitted directly from hacks
Legit = those who haven't

If the character has never hacked or benefitted from hacks, it is legit no matter who leveled it.


lol, No. Ur just one of those idiot who used the word too much, u forgot the TRUE meaning. illegit= people who have broken the ToS, legit= people who haven't. techinally, every is ilegit but to a very small degree.
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#25
Cybuster Wrote:Firstly, its not illegit, its illegitimate. Secondly, yes, it is wrong, but with this game being such a grindfest, who can blame you?

Then it's not legit either, it's legitimate. It's a short form, so quiet down >_>
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#26
Mudkip Wrote:lol, No. Ur just one of those idiot who used the word too much, u forgot the TRUE meaning. illegit= people who have broken the ToS, legit= people who haven't. techinally, every is ilegit but to a very small degree.

That would be overdoing it. I'm not going to say my friend is a criminal, even though he dropped some candy-paper on the floor; littering , which is against the law.
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#27
Mudkip Wrote:lol, No. Ur just one of those idiot who used the word too much, u forgot the TRUE meaning. illegit= people who have broken the ToS, legit= people who haven't. techinally, every is ilegit but to a very small degree.

from where i'm standing, you're the only idiot that apparently doesn't realize those "legit" and "illegit" terms are used in maplestory to represent people who don't use hacks and people who do. it has been like that since hackers started appearing en masse for the first time around 2006.

and another thing, the "TRUE" meaning of terms used within communities are given by the communities themselves. if you don't agree with me, go look at WOW and "pwned" or search "terms within communities" in google.

what you are defining is legitimate and illegitimate and, believe me, within maple they're not the same as legit and illegit.
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#28
Why bother playing this game if you're going to pay someone else to do it for you?
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#29
Retalion Wrote:You do know how SilverBg2 beat Philzor right? It was pretty lol as he put his z-helm selling buisness on hold (and had a pissed off buyer or two) as he was "power training to beat Philzor to 200", which made me chuckle knowing some dude from Egypt (least those are the rumors) was doing his training.

One of the more contraversial guilds in Scania has quite a few of their higher levels trained by some certain group of people and whatnot and I personally find that illigit. That being said, its their choice, not mine. Im not going to judge them based on those actions. Its their own "accomplishment" of 200 that's being tainted, not mine. I couldnt care less. All I can do is not use/buy these services myself.

Philzor and Silverbg2 is the whole idea of the topic of this thread.
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#30
Better then hacking/leeching off a hacker, but still. :/


Your character should be your work, but eh. IDC really. No one can really prove who is on someone's account at any given time. Confused
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#31
I think power-leveling services are legit, but dishonest. If you're not going to level the character yourself, then why even play? Sure, maybe you'll have some super cool level 156 character, but if you only trained it to level 13, then there's no feeling of accomplishment in the character at all. It's like it's not even your character anymore, since you don't even know how to use it.

Getting a power-leveling service to level you up once isn't a very logical idea, especially if you're high-leveled. Say you're level 188. You get it power-leveled to 189. When someone finds out somehow, your reputation won't be very good and a lot of people will dislike you.
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#32
just like buying mesos. makes you a lowlife
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#33
Avenge Wrote:Philzor and Silverbg2 is the whole idea of the topic of this thread.

wait, are you saying Philzor bought services too or...? *is somewhat slow, sorry D:*
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#34
Retalion Wrote:wait, are you saying Philzor bought services too or...? *is somewhat slow, sorry D:*

A (very) small group of people on Broa are upset that Silverbg2 passed Philzor using powerleveling services.
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#35
Quote:what if you find massive piles of loot from the hacker(hacking at something small, like the tree that grew) and you pick it up? is that make me illegit?

Proof of such makes your character illegit, as well as any subsequent characters you fund with that character. But in practice, no one would catch you benefitting from hackers at "the tree that grew".

Quote:just like buying mesos. makes you a lowlife

Wait, so we can buy NX through Nexon and use it to buy mesos, but not through channels not approved by Nexon? I used to have your point of view, but when Nexon came out with MTS, they monetized mesos.

Quote:I think power-leveling services are legit, but dishonest. If you're not going to level the character yourself, then why even play? Sure, maybe you'll have some super cool level 156 character, but if you only trained it to level 13, then there's no feeling of accomplishment in the character at all. It's like it's not even your character anymore, since you don't even know how to use it.

QFT

Quote:lol, No. Ur just one of those idiot who used the word too much, u forgot the TRUE meaning. illegit= people who have broken the ToS, legit= people who haven't. techinally, every is ilegit but to a very small degree.

For the purposes of everyday conversation, legit and illegit would be my definition. Why? Because no one gives a firetruck that someone bypasses the swear filter.

So, lol no. No need to jump on me with ad hominems.
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#36
Acim Wrote:The people who buy powerleveling services work to get their money, and spend it on levels. It's still work. (Just a different view, I really view it as illegitimate).

so if i work for my money than buy a hack i am legit?EekExcellent
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#37
Cybuster Wrote:If you find having to do the same thing over and over and over etc for 50 hours straight just to get one stupid level up well, then, I don't mean to be rude, but you've got something wrong with you.

Games are supposed to be fun, not work.

Who are you to say there's something wrong with them. They might enjoy leveling, hence doing it.

Also, this game is full of illogical thinking, where the majority rules.
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#38
Taiketo Wrote:Why bother playing this game if you're going to pay someone else to do it for you?

My sentiments exactly. If you view the game as a grindfest, don't bother playing it. You don't have any place making people who worked hard levelling to 130 or whatever envy you, and then realizing you have no intent of actually playing the character 5 days later. I dislike the very idea of using outside resources to give massive benefits in-game. Cash shop effects are great, pets are great, Gacha and 2x EXP aren't too bad, but at some point you have to realize that money only goes so far.
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#39
Retalion Wrote:You do know how SilverBg2 beat Philzor right? It was pretty lol as he put his z-helm selling buisness on hold (and had a pissed off buyer or two) as he was "power training to beat Philzor to 200", which made me chuckle knowing some dude from Egypt (least those are the rumors) was doing his training.

Yeah, those rumors are true. From what i've heard and seen on some websites, Silverbg2 did use Ayman (Power leveling service) to get to 200. I've also heard that most of his guild uses that service too.
After knowing Philzor for almost 3 years, I do believe him when he says it's impossible to level that fast without sharing accounts.

And no Sean/Avenge, the whole Silverbg2/Philzor thing was not why I started this topic. The reason why I started it is because I was curious on peoples views of using power leveling services.
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#40
In regards to the Philzor thing, I will say this: Every Broan level 200 took his time getting there. Col (Korwyn) even stated he was waiting til Friday to hit 200, when if he wanted to he could have easily grinded it out and done it quicker. Even after lolmultiplecurry and lolmultiplestarlightzzz, Loop took his time as well, not rushing himself to 200 to prove anything to anyone

I just find it sad that being one of the first to hit 200 drove people to drastic measures...kinda pathetic

And as a note Im not trying to start drama, but come on.... Curry was training non-stop for more than 36 hours straight to try and hit 200 when he was in the final levels....you are telling me ONE person did that?

On Topic:
I always thought powerleveling services was when you pay a website to train your char for you

Leeching =/= powerleveling in my eyes, especially if you are using two computers to let your own character leech from another one of your characters

RoxStarz Wrote:the little pop up tips explicitly state that account sharing and accounts that share can be banned. So "technically" power leveling is an offense that could result in being banned.
Ah, but I remember NxJoeW stating that yes its illegal, but he has never witnessed / heard of anyone ever being banned for account sharing, considering that you basically have to IP track the account everytime it logs on, and even then they could be resetting their IP address everytime so you cant TRULY know that someone is sharing an account
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