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Rayquaza2233 Wrote:Right there, IMO, is why this game won't die. You think "oh just spending some money for NX, not paying per month like WoW", and you actually end up spending more on NX than you would for playing WoW for the same duration.
KarStealer Wrote:Yeah and seeing how WoW is the BETTER GAME, everyone whos ever said that have all been ripped off.
This is why you go DFO. The only mandatory thing you're paying for is $1-3 for storage upgrading per character (for convenience sake) and $4.50 a month for a shop permit, and since there are no D/C hacks it's way safer selling stuff. Paying NX for event related avatar sets is optional, same for Life Tokens.
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2010-03-02, 04:29 AM
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Nightclaw Wrote:How are you funding yourself?
And so many things are pay 2 play..
facestompers, SCG, onyx apples, Pink bean.....
Can you get yourself SCG, Facestompers, or onyx apples without paying?
Yes, yes you can. You just need to merchant. If you want a free to log on, pay to play game go look at something like trixter where all the CS items are untradeable. You could be the richest person in the entire game in trixter and you still wouldn't have access to the CS items and the power that comes with them.
Not so in maple, merchanting has always been a part of maple. If you want to merchant you can merchant in mesos or NX and buy everything a CS player has, it will just take more work. If you can't merch up to the level you'd like to be at and instead choose to pour money into the game that's your choice but it's in no way necessary.
Slaking Wrote:Tl;dr: Maple is going to die, if not now within ~2 years. This is the fate for all versions eventually.
Nothing any of you say here about maple dying means a god damn thing. The only thing that will cause maple to die is a decrease in the active playerbase and a drop in profits. Your friends/guild/ family quitting/ being hacked/ nexon screwing up skills doesn't mean a damn thing if other people keep playing and paying. And since, as far as I know, we don't have access to those figures nothing you say has any basis whatsoever.
Kawasari Mimoto Wrote:This is a dying game, due to:
a) Bad community
b) Shitty company
c) Hackers & hackings
d) Graphics and gameplay = losing
These things have always been a part of maple. Maple must have been dying the instant it opened according to this.
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I really can't stand how Nexon doesn't care about people's criticisms when MapleStory goes downhill. Nexon needs to learn how to improve the countless flaws they have come up, instead of just earning money.
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Wedges Wrote:These things have always been a part of maple. Maple must have been dying the instant it opened according to this.
Not necessarily. Back then, there was less. Less people means a smaller community, which means less of a bad community. Hackers have increased due to there being more players. Maple Story was also easier to manage, remember 3rd job? Hackers galore. There were never any serious account hackings, besides the one time one of the top 5 players got hacked. Suuushi was that character that was targeted. Now it's on a whole new level.
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The thing here is everyone's individual context of "dying" and what it means for something as abstract as Maple Story to "die". But it comes down to this: either dying can either be Nexon losing profit from running this game that they must shut it down or Maple Story has loss so much playability that the game is no longer worth playing. And I believe the latter is what the OP was going after. In which case, yes, I do believe the game is "dying" and has been dying for the past few years.
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2010-03-02, 12:23 PM
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At this point i think the main company itself (nexon korea) is too focused on maplestory 2, their just adding whatever possible to keep the cash shop (money) going.
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GMS can't be dying. This is only the 2nd failwave. Imagine MSEA who have had 2 failwaves of stuff 1 after the other. We're no where near that much fail. yeah a large amount of people got hacked, but that doesn't constitute the fact that maple is going to go downhill.
Granted if they cared a little more about not having such crappy customer service, then it wouldn't be that bad. If they could admit their mistakes, it would be that much better.
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They feel more like fail tidal waves.
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Worthyness Wrote:GMS can't be dying. This is only the 2nd failwave. Imagine MSEA who have had 2 failwaves of stuff 1 after the other. We're no where near that much fail. yeah a large amount of people got hacked, but that doesn't constitute the fact that maple is going to go downhill.
Granted if they cared a little more about not having such crappy customer service, then it wouldn't be that bad. If they could admit their mistakes, it would be that much better.
Actually, it is going downhill. There's no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean it's dying. People cling onto even the worst things because change is scary and difficult, and they're in a comfortable spot. As long as maplestory is comfortable for the majority of players (they're not getting hacked) they will hold onto it hopelessly.
There's very little chance of maple dying without Nexon pulling the plug.
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Hmm.. I wonder if you all who think maplestory is dying will come back to it in maplestory 2? Maplestory still has a long way to go when we bring in the second game. Have any of you considered how much more money they will make with this?
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i will stop caring once MS will release black magician'esque job :3
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Nightclaw Wrote:IMO, they just need to fix security, and get rid of all the NX advantages and make the game Free to play... Not free to log on.
I mean seriously.. Gach? HAmmers? Scissors? safety charms? PETS...
Its just nuts.
If theres no gach, hammers, scissors, safety charms, and many other thing with NX, maplestory might be shut down. NX is the way of paying the people working there, thats why u cant expect a perfect game since it is a free game. Im not saying that it is an excuse for the lazy ass GM's not doing their work keeping safe their accounts and making the game more secure, but its true that u cant expect nothing better if theres no more NX advantages.
Anyways, this is my opinon Lol, none1 works for free.
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I don't intend on even bother playing a sequel, unless my current NL is transferred over to the 2nd game or something. Or.. if they make the game more fair and add some of the NX advantages over to the game for free, but I don't see that happening. MMOs are a completely waste of time, and I only play my Night Lord and Bishop now because I got them both up so high that I want to play every once in a while. Secondly, knowing Nexon, me making an account, getting NX will be going to waste because some 'script-kiddie' will end up getting my information somehow in the sequel-game.
MS2? I don't think so.
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jshurel Wrote:If theres no gach, hammers, scissors, safety charms, and many other thing with NX, maplestory might be shut down. NX is the way of paying the people working there, thats why u cant expect a perfect game since it is a free game. Im not saying that it is an excuse for the lazy ass GM's not doing their work keeping safe their accounts and making the game more secure, but its true that u cant expect nothing better if theres no more NX advantages.
Anyways, this is my opinon Lol, none1 works for free. I beg to differ. NX clothing doesn't present any advantage at all, yet it's bought up in massive amounts. Same goes with megaphones, unless you're doing massive advertising over them.
KarStealer Wrote:Hmm.. I wonder if you all who think maplestory is dying will come back to it in maplestory 2? Maplestory still has a long way to go when we bring in the second game. Have any of you considered how much more money they will make with this? pineapple no.
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just bringing how i see things.
To me, if nexon doesnt stop the hack thing (but they will), maple will die.
Cause if i get hacked, i'll stop. For ever (this time f3).
About the ht thing, i don't know about scania.
but, you're saying we need 'connections' to ht. Erm, i've never seen anyone soloing ht. So, Of Course you need to know some peoples.
Then, When i came into the ht thing, no one asked my range / equips.
*To prove that lots of people are talking about things they don't know*
First time i've done a ht, i was throwing steelys, with a 8atk gloves. At lvl 168 (hacked before).
So, no, you don't Need to pay nx to be able to get these beautiful items.
(Even if you'll need to be 175+ to have enough hp since i've washed a litle . . .)
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Kevo Wrote:Impossible? A few months ago, that was the case actually. Not too sure about now since I'm barely on.
Without decent gear you can't do anything. Nobody will take you to any boss... in the gameplay beyond Level 120, equips do play a great role as leveling becomes inceasingly harder. In this time of Maple, competition and stats are getting more and more important. Without a desire to keep getting stronger or even being average, and pumping un-resetted AP into HP... you most certainly will fall behind only to be replaced by somebody of more use. Sounds terrible but that's the reality of lolMaple.
You just need to find yourself friends who see you for who you are and not your damage output.
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2010-03-04, 01:41 PM
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LemonLimes Wrote:You just need to find yourself friends who see you for who you are and not your damage output.
Oh, I have plenty of those. I'm most certainly don't have problems getting into any boss runs, and my equips are below average  .
Please don't make assumptions about me just because I say some bad sounding things.
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In scania, it is impossible to HT, not due to connections or washing or damage, but because either the Cave is always being held or D/C hackers take down the Squad. The only bosses to count with in this game are Papulatus and Zakum
Scarlion and Targa = Bad exp
Pianus = Good Luck finding one
HornTail = D/C hackers and Holders
Pink Bean = a joke
Any other boss = Easily soloable or not worth the investment.
On topic: I think Maple Story is dying, but not at the speed rate some of you say. The funny thing is it could be easily changed by just listening to the customers, but that costs too much money apparently
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I dont understand why there is only 1 channel for HT... Why not make 19 ch's of HT... alot harder to hold..
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That would be some insane lag on the server 24/7 if there was only 1 ch. for HT.
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