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The next overpowered class?
#41
Argh you guys all make this class sound so good......

So tempted to switch over my TB's gear now. Capping every hit for once might actually be nice, lol.
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#42
Blunderr Wrote:Capping every hit for once might actually be nice, lol.

F'uckin MEEs...look what you do
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#43
Takebacker Wrote:F'uckin MEEs...look what you do

No, I mean personally I'll be able to given my level of funding.
Earlier in the thread I posted that I did the calculations for how much I'd hit on an Eunwol. I'm a Thunder Breaker right now, I hit about 35ms on non-phys resist bosses with 12k str, 1.6k w.att, and 255% boss. On an Eunwol, that'd get pushed up to 50ms on the same monsters, and plus I'd have actual PDR instead of a pineappleing trash 9% every other attack.

Phys. Resist monsters would again depend on how Soul Division's damage buff actually works, as that's where TBs somewhat shine, given their 50% elemental ignore.

a TB's combo system make it an annoying class to boss on, but their skills and playstyle appeal to me a lot. If Soul Division really makes Eunwol that good of a bosser though, it'd be really tempting to switch over my gear.
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#44
KillerZero Wrote:What im curious as to now, lets say you use Soul Division before a boss does DR, would attacking only the Soul let you bypass the DR, or would it kill you like normal? And it seemed my suspicions about this class being actually good bosser was correct Big Grin And UGHH LF> 4th character card Deck, way to many good cards now ;C
No, attacking the soul attacks the boss also which would proc the DR, it's still an insane bosser (and insane bossing support).

hadriel Wrote:I believe it acts as a monster summon skill that links the HP with the boss. So unless the boss has an AoE or global DR-buff skill, the summoned soul should not have DR. Unless... you attack it when it is under DR in which case it is difficult to tell because it could spawn a "naked" soul or a soul with all the buffs and statuses duplicated.

Hadriel
Yeah it basically creates a copy of the boss the shares HP pool of the original boss/mob, although the soul may not cast buffs attacking the soul while the body has DR will activate DR. (I tested with Dark Soul, Hilla and Bloody Queen)

holycow Wrote:[COLOR="#0000FF"]what happens if you use soul division on chaos pierre right before it splits though? :f6:
could you just attack the clone and down chaos pierre without having to hit the other 2...? @_@[/COLOR]
I cannot say much on Chaos Pierre I can't really test on that but here are the scenarios.

Situation = Chaos Pierre Splits into two.
Scenario 1 = Soul Division on one pierre and attacking the soul will damage both pierre
Scenario 2 = Soul Division on one pierre and attacking the soul will only damage the pierre you soul division'd
Scenario 3 op = Soul Division on both pierres and attacking the two souls alone would damage both pierres twice
Scenario 4 = Soul Division on both pierres and attacking the two souls alone would damage both pierres once
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#45
Wonder what would happen at gollux ._.
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#46
DavyJonesx Wrote:Wonder what would happen at gollux ._.

It would just be a 50% damage buff since there aren't any parts that appear and disappear to take advantage of the way soul division works.
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#47
If you attack a Soul-Divided boss using a 1v1 skill (or as an Enraged Hero), does it still hit both the boss and the Soul, or just one of them?
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#48
SaptaZapta Wrote:If you attack a Soul-Divided boss using a 1v1 skill (or as an Enraged Hero), does it still hit both the boss and the Soul, or just one of them?

It hits both doing 50% increased damage.

You see two rows of damage but it doesn't mean you're dividing the bosses HP in half if you use a mob skill and hit both bodies. It's only there to show you how much you're doing to it if the real boss is elsewhere.
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#49
I think it might be better to call the soul a "Mirror Image" esq skill from dual blders instead of shadow partner.

The mirror image will take the damage if the regular form isn't availble to damage [IE vellum]

And just think that the image's hp is connected to the real boss's hp.
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#50
Tigeon Wrote:I think it might be better to call the soul a "Mirror Image"
That seems pretty pointless imo
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#51
DavyJonesx Wrote:That seems pretty pointless imo

I don't see how o.o Explain?

Wait is the skill where dual bladers leave their shadow partner on the ground to act as a decoy called mirror image or is it something else?
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#52
Do bosses resist Soul-Divide after it has been used on them like they do bind?
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#53
if you believe in the power of MEE anything is possible
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#54
slowly been recubing my stuff to % str for this class. The only reason why I want to try out this class is for c.vellum.
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#55
Looks extremely useful in a party for certain bosses, but so boring... I'll make one for the card I guess, could throw it in with Xenon and Mechanic for the Pirate deck effect at least.
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#56
Imaginal Wrote:No, attacking the soul attacks the boss also which would proc the DR, it's still an insane bosser (and insane bossing support).


Yeah it basically creates a copy of the boss the shares HP pool of the original boss/mob, although the soul may not cast buffs attacking the soul while the body has DR will activate DR. (I tested with Dark Soul, Hilla and Bloody Queen)


I cannot say much on Chaos Pierre I can't really test on that but here are the scenarios.

Situation = Chaos Pierre Splits into two.
Scenario 1 = Soul Division on one pierre and attacking the soul will damage both pierre
Scenario 2 = Soul Division on one pierre and attacking the soul will only damage the pierre you soul division'd
Scenario 3 op = Soul Division on both pierres and attacking the two souls alone would damage both pierres twice
Scenario 4 = Soul Division on both pierres and attacking the two souls alone would damage both pierres once

what about... use soul division on chaos pierre before it splits, then it splits after soul division is used on it. would it be 1 clone or 2 clones? and also if it's 1 clone, would hitting that 1 clone deal damage to both the split'd chaos pierre?
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#57
holycow Wrote:what about... use soul division on chaos pierre before it splits, then it splits after soul division is used on it. would it be 1 clone or 2 clones? and also if it's 1 clone, would hitting that 1 clone deal damage to both the split'd chaos pierre?

I'd assume that since the first pierre goes away, its soul would also go away. All three are different bosses, technically, correct? If so then it'd probably just vanish with regular pierre. You'd have to re-use it once they split.

Just an assumption, though. Depends what ACTUALLY happens to the first pierre.
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#58
I think you guys are missing the most obvious option, which would be the game crashing.
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#59
holycow Wrote:what about... use soul division on chaos pierre before it splits, then it splits after soul division is used on it. would it be 1 clone or 2 clones? and also if it's 1 clone, would hitting that 1 clone deal damage to both the split'd chaos pierre?
Blunderr Wrote:I'd assume that since the first pierre goes away, its soul would also go away. All three are different bosses, technically, correct? If so then it'd probably just vanish with regular pierre. You'd have to re-use it once they split.

Just an assumption, though. Depends what ACTUALLY happens to the first pierre.

[video=youtube;gOQT1SNc3rA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOQT1SNc3rA[/video]
I uploaded this video after Nexon changed Eunwol game play for the third time.

Anyway in the video I used Soul Division on the Red Pierre and attacking the soul will still damage the boss when it disappears and etc, and the most important part is when Pierre changed color the soul disappeared at the same time so Blundy is correct.

I'd also like to make it clear that hitting the soul would damage the body too (and vise versa) so hitting both the Boss/Mob and the Soul with one skill would make that skill hit x4 (as if it was casted 4 times) so with the additional 50% damage that is ultimate burst
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#60
Imaginal Wrote:I'd also like to make it clear that hitting the soul would damage the body too (and vise versa) so hitting both the Boss/Mob and the Soul with one skill would make that skill hit x4 (as if it was casted 4 times) so with the additional 50% damage that is ultimate burst

This is the main part I was looking for that questioned me a lot. Thank you for clarifying.
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