Online Porn to be blocked in the UK

"My country sucks, so every country should suck". Right?

wait, when the f'uck did i say that ?

So if you wanna watch porn, you have to ask the whatever people to disable the filter? AWKWARD

I imagine most ISPs will have a little form to submit on their websites, assuming you're logged into the account holder (which for most will be the parents) in order to disable it.

...isn't anyone gonna ask how reliable the filters are going to be? Or how they're gonna establish what is considered porn or not?

It's a more scary concern when you think about it.

...isn't anyone gonna ask how reliable the filters are going to be? Or how they're gonna establish what is considered porn or not?

It's a more scary concern when you think about it.

Maybe they'll just declare anyone not wearing a shirt / pants porn........

wait, when the f'uck did i say that ?

You didn't, that's just what it sounded like. Basically, you are saying that, because you guys have a full-on filter that you need to use a proxy to get past, that somehow makes this a nonissue, because it's "not as bad as it could be". It's not as bad as it could be, RIGHT NOW, but any government will constantly test boundaries just to see if they can inch closer and closer to full control of the lives of all of their citizens; this is just a push, there will always be another push as long as the previous was successful. Unfortunately, no matter what happens, they win; either it is successful and they gain more foothold, or it is unsuccessful and people are desensitized to it over time, gradually looping to them winning just based on the jaded populace not giving a pomegranate anymore.

They honestly don't expect to get bills like SOPA or PIPA or whatever else they want to make up pass, those bills are MADE to fail, so that, when the next "SOPA" comes out, it will be slightly less important to people, and the one after that slightly less important than that one, and so on until nobody cares because it's been tried and scrapped hundreds of times. At that point, when the people that should care no longer do, they push hard on a single bill and get it passed before anyone even knows what happened. The formula works very well, almost too well; people are very stupid, and politicians are very good at exploiting that stupidity, manipulation is almost an art form to them at this point.

[MENTION=5228]Razmos[/MENTION] Do British conservatives support "limited government" like American conservatives, because that would be quite hypocritical for a party against "government intrusion" and the "nanny state".

I honestly have no clue. I don't really pay attention to politics D:

I think it's a waste of time and money to try and block it.
I think that it will encourage underage people to circumvent the restrictions in increasingly inventive ways which will make them more susceptible to computer infection.

I do not think this is a civil rights problem since the customer makes the decision by opting out if they desire.

I wouldn't even say that computer infection is the serious issue here.

The entire problem is that it will promote bypassing the rules, which you never want to do. When you constantly add more and more silly, stupid, and useless rules you increase the desensitization for following ANY rules. The more pointless rules you add that people go around, the more likely chance that people will decide that other rules aren't important and bypass them as well. Next thing you know people are doing 10x worse than they should, because of the compounding issue of "It's not a big deal if you do that."

You didn't, that's just what it sounded like. Basically, you are saying that, because you guys have a full-on filter that you need to use a proxy to get past, that somehow makes this a nonissue, because it's "not as bad as it could be".

And how does that translate to "My country sucks, so every country should suck"?
I'd agree with you, but the "its ok tho, VPN works wonders" seems like a joke to make fun of the fact that his country is doing worse than England.

And how does that translate to "My country sucks, so every country should suck"?
I'd agree with you, but the "its ok tho, VPN works wonders" seems like a joke to make fun of the fact that his country is doing worse than England.

So...how is that not an agreement? Sounds exactly like what I said; his country is doing worse than England, so he doesn't care if England implements a set of more restrictive rules because, while they are worse for England, they are still better than what he has to deal with.

It wasn't a jab at his country sucking, per say, though I've never been a tactful person; being blunt is less work, and when you get to this point, you stop caring about the little things like making everything flowery and politically correct. I rarely say anything I actually mean to be offensive, I rarely get genuinely upset (at least in serious debates), I actually find taking the opposite side on most matters to be enjoyable and a good way to exercise my brain, which is generally in a permanent boredom coma; frankness may seem to have an edge, but that's only when you compare it to the pandering bullshit you hear on TV and everywhere else. People have actually gotten to the point that, if something isn't catering directly to them, it is seen as an insult, which is silly and untrue.

So...how is that not an agreement? Sounds exactly like what I said; his country is doing worse than England, so he doesn't care if England implements a set of more restrictive rules because, while they are worse for England, they are still better than what he has to deal with.

It wasn't a jab at his country sucking, per say, though I've never been a tactful person; being blunt is less work, and when you get to this point, you stop caring about the little things like making everything flowery and politically correct. I rarely say anything I actually mean to be offensive, I rarely get genuinely upset (at least in serious debates), I actually find taking the opposite side on most matters to be enjoyable and a good way to exercise my brain, which is generally in a permanent boredom coma; frankness may seem to have an edge, but that's only when you compare it to the pandering bullpomegranate you hear on TV and everywhere else. People have actually gotten to the point that, if something isn't catering directly to them, it is seen as an insult, which is silly and untrue.

Sorry that still doesn't translate to "should suck". If anything, it sounds like "my country sucks, so every other country by comparison doesn't suck."

Hadriel

Necropost!

The group spoke to a number of internet service providers about the filter, discovering that the block could include nine other categories.

Extremist and terrorist-related content, anorexia and eating disorder websites and suicide-related websites are mentioned, as well as alcohol, web forums, esoteric material and web blocking circumvention tools.

The Open Rights Group objects to the proposed filter as it believes people stick with defaults.

Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a5...z2aGu0H8JN

Wow. Proxies are going to be blocked too.

Web Forums.. I wonder if that includes Southperry.

I'm worried that them blocking sites pertaining to Anorexia, suicide and alcohol could lead to blocking of helpful sites too

At this rate, they might as well block out everything except the BBC website. This filter thing is getting too far.

This web blocking thing went from stupid to full on retarded pretty quickly.

 Relevant

[video=youtube;LzmtYkPCQgg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzmtYkPCQgg[/video]

The religious parties tried to pass this same sort of law in Israel.
Their idea was to shame people into leaving the block on, because who'd be willing to call their ISP and admit to being a filthy depraved pervert who actually wants to watch obscene content on the internet?

It didn't pass and I'm glad. I don't trust whatever software they put there to actually block all the bad stuff and only the bad stuff. Let me be the judge of what my children and I can do on the 'net.

+1 for the Tom Lehrer song.

Conversation between an unassuming user of the internet and his/her ISP -

User: pr0n pls
ISP: Sorry?
User: pr0n pls
ISP: Sorry, did you mean to type "porn"?
User: y
ISP: Okay ... so you would like the filter for pornography lifted?
User: y, need (.Y.) pls
ISP: ...
User: pr0n pls nao
ISP: Um, all right, the filter has been lifted
User: thx
ISP: But I have to ask: why do you view sites with grown men masquerading around as forest fauna?
User: lolk bb