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Waltzing changed his UI design again:


Now if he can actually get them to change it to this, I would be a happy camper.

Waltzing changed his UI design again:


Now if he can actually get them to change it to this, I would be a happy camper.

I don't mind this one! Although the EXP bar looks a little weird. Maybe move the HP and MP bars to the same line, and then make the EXP bar big enough to hold its own values...
But then that would make it EXACTLY LIKE THE CURRENT UI

I quite like Waltzing's new designs! All of them adress the problems in one way or another. Must be Karma, after being blamed for all bad things.

Wow that was obnoxious. Not everyone is made of money...especially people playing a free-to-play game.

Not everyone who plays a free-to-play game is dirt poor. And conversely, not all people who play p2p games are filthy rich.

Seeing how he does not live in a third-world country, is assuming that he's able to afford a commodity that's a fraction of a price of items such as mobile phones, which people replace every 3-4 years, such an obnoxious thing to do?

Waltzing changed his UI design again:


Now if he can actually get them to change it to this, I would be a happy camper.

Best one I've seen so far. I really like the reimplementation of the EXP percentage. Waltzing to the rescue! Although, this is pretty much exactly what KMS has in widescreen mode. I feel like we're just beating around the bush a bit.

I don't mind this one! Although the EXP bar looks a little weird. Maybe move the HP and MP bars to the same line, and then make the EXP bar big enough to hold its own values...
But then that would make it EXACTLY LIKE THE CURRENT UI

Soooooo... let's just keep the current UI!
Problem solved.

This reminds me. A quick adress at the sizes of the inventory and skill window would be amazing too. Less empty space and more space optimization. Just put the link skill button over the "add SP" one, overlapping it if it must, because link skills have no SP to put into. That's an amazing 3 lines of white space removed. I was a fan of having the names shown but it's not that bad looking back at it.

Not everyone who plays a free-to-play game is dirt poor. And conversely, not all people who play p2p games are filthy rich.

Seeing how he does not live in a third-world country, is assuming that he's able to afford a commodity that's a fraction of a price of items such as mobile phones, which people replace every 3-4 years, such an obnoxious thing to do?

Exaggeration. False assumption. Incorrect information/false assumption. False assumption.

Basically, stop.

Hadriel

Soooooo... let's just keep the current UI!
Problem solved.

Keep the bottom bar we have now, add every other UI change.


That shouldn't be too hard, right?




If that isn't an option though, I quite like the second version

Not everyone who plays a free-to-play game is dirt poor. And conversely, not all people who play p2p games are filthy rich.

Seeing how he does not live in a third-world country, is assuming that he's able to afford a commodity that's a fraction of a price of items such as mobile phones, which people replace every 3-4 years, such an obnoxious thing to do?

Yes.
Some people don't replace their mobile phone every 3-4 years. Some do, but not to a smart phone or better.
Yes, there are people in this world, and even in the great U S of A, who do not have a spare $500, or even $300, in their entertainment budget.

As for whether Maple should cater to them: well, one of the draws Maple used to have was low hardware requirements. People whose old computers had weak CPUs and ancient or integrated GPUs, or whose internet connection is slow or limited, could still play MapleStory.
Lately, NexonKR seems to have made the strategic decision that people who can't afford to upgrade their computers probably can't afford much (or any) NX either, so pineapple them. Nexon keeps making the game heavier and heavier, on CPU, graphics, and memory requirements. Just because it's their decision doesn't mean we can't protest, though.

Keep the bottom bar we have now, add every other UI change.


If that isn't an option though, I quite like the second version

Yes, I agree, to both of those.

Seems Waltzing had a go at redesigning the UI. From Nexon official forums:

i must say, i quite love these 2 designs, my only gripe is the hp and mp bar are too close together, what could be done is cut the exp bar, so that the arch mage part moves down and opens some space. and because if we did that the alt and space buttons would be unaligned on the high res, the exp could be moved up and all the buttons moved down, so it ends chat above exp above quick slots.

Waltzing changed his UI design again:


Now if he can actually get them to change it to this, I would be a happy camper.

and on this one the design for the high res is flawless to me, while i don't like the expanding quick slots in the low res, although i guess that's not much issue since the chat bar also expands i'm a-ok with these really, now get them in waltzing!

Exaggeration. False assumption. Incorrect information/false assumption. False assumption.

Basically, stop.

Hadriel

Before moving on, I strongly recommend that you a) Google your prices and b) Google relevant market research/statistics.
A sub-$500 computer is not a luxury good. Assuming that he would be able to afford a budget computer is neither obnoxious nor far-fetched. I made a sound assumption, and I was wrong. There is nothing more and nothing less to it. I don't see why some people here like to blow things out of proportion.

As for whether Maple should cater to them: well, one of the draws Maple used to have was low hardware requirements. People whose old computers had weak CPUs and ancient or no GPUs, or whose internet connection is slow or limited, could still play MapleStory.
Lately, NexonKR seems to have made the strategic decision that people who can't afford to upgrade their computers probably can't afford much (or any) NX either, so pineapple them. Nexon keeps making the game heavier and heavier, on CPU, graphics, and memory requirements. Just because it's their decision doesn't mean we can't protest, though.

The average budget-oriented machine could not play anything more advanced than Maple back then, true. But times have changed; your average budget machine is both cheaper in nominal and absolute terms. Even if Maple was and still is targeting the casual gamer market, the standards have changed. It's been a decade; assuming that the same player-base from 10 years ago are still playing your game on the exact same machine as they were back then is illogical.

The same could essentially be said about any software developer. New software doesn't support older operating systems. New operating systems don't support older hardware. Are the developers necessarily using the same 'if they can't afford the new OS, they won't have the money to give me either' sort of mentality? Or is it more because of hardware and software limitations causing feasibility issues--and that tailoring development for an arguably small minority affects growth options for the company?

If Nexon wants to modernise their game and keep up with the competition, sacrifices have to be made. I have no doubt that if they reverted to pre-BB level graphics and UI, the game would run faster. But would it feel polished and appealing to players?

So, um... I guess we're not getting 1366x768? I really, really want it.

So, um... I guess we're not getting 1366x768? I really, really want it.

Well, to be fair KMS didn't exactly get it with Unlimited either.
In fact, they got it three and a half months after Unlimited.


...Oh dear god PLEASE don't make us wait that long Nexon

and on this one the design for the high res is flawless to me, while i don't like the expanding quick slots in the low res, although i guess that's not much issue since the chat bar also expands i'm a-ok with these really, now get them in waltzing!

I suggested the collapsible quick slots (like we have currently).
Either that or where the 6 other slots are would be just fine, even if I have a lot of skills that have a cooldown, I'd find a way around it 'cause I'm sure there are some skills that don't need to be there as I don't use them much.
Just as long as I can get all my cooldown skills in there!

Well, to be fair KMS didn't exactly get it with Unlimited either.
In fact, they got it three and a half months after Unlimited.


...Oh dear god PLEASE don't make us wait that long Nexon

Well we're getting Twilight Perion... anything is possible.

if only a GM could quell these rumors about GMS getting the CMS weapon requirement for damage cap increase i'd be happy

I really love the "Waltzing" designs. The most recent one I'm in favor for.

Most of what was said here has been said in the other thread so the only thing I want to know is if GMS is seriously getting a different cap than the one in KMS Unlimited. Everything else is secondary to it.

Before moving on, I strongly recommend that you a) Google your prices and b) Google relevant market research/statistics.
A sub-$500 computer is not a luxury good. Assuming that he would be able to afford a budget computer is neither obnoxious nor far-fetched. I made a sound assumption, and I was wrong. There is nothing more and nothing less to it. I don't see why some people here like to blow things out of proportion.

Off-topic: Generalisation/tree-in-a-forest data spread. Generalisation/irrelevance. Conditional assumption.
Google's statistics apply to everyone. Statistics explain everything. Mhm.
I'm going to end off here with these links:
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_c380_c385-658.php [2005 - 2012 (still using in areas that do not permit camera phones)]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_goods#Economics[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0"]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0[/URL]
You are both right and wrong, but your presentation leaves... much distaste. At the end, it's all about choices and perspectives.


On-topic: I would rather they make minimal tweaks to the game UI instead of a massive overhaul. IIRC Big Bang UI change was not exactly massive either, and I found the BB patch very welcoming in terms of UI. This feels like they're smashing something up and rebuilding it from its pieces again on a larger frame, throwing in/out some parts... that's probably why Waltzing's attempts are fairly welcome - because it's basically refining and polishing what's already good. Ain't no fixin' if nothin' broken.

I'm in favour of longer HP/MP bars. Take it as a more sensitive gauge, because I ain't going to stare at the last digit all the time.

I really look forward to what they'll unveil for the EQ UI. Skill UI... Won't die I guess... The multi-point addition option makes up more than everything else. I just wonder if there's a real need to categorize skills into offensive, passive/enhancement and buffs/supportive, not when so many skills now have multiple effects. I... don't know why they had to make the item UI a 4x8 instead of keeping it an 8x4... it's almost assuming that you're going to play on the larger resolution; same goes for the skill UI.

Hadriel