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The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic
Hypermug Wrote:What the hell was that obese shark/frog thing at 1:17?

I'm pretty sure that the shark thing in the beginning can eat people/monsters, and gets bigger and turns into a blubber shark the more it eats. Thats what it seemed like to me.
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Teostra confirmed for MH4 as well. Hopefully we'll be getting Lunastra as well (and make her actually difficult and not a weaker Teostra clone if it's not too much to ask ;~Wink.
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All I gotta say is if they're including so many old monsters, they better not skimp out and forget the Crabs. I miss hermy.
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Figured I show this to you guys.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sbj/...r-handbook
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Slightly blurry phone picture incoming

[spoiler=Master Hunter's Crest][Image: XtNZR0q.jpg][/spoiler]

Finally got around to doing Four Point Formation this morning. Got three awards at once, because it was the final quest I had to do: The Award for doing all 6-8* quests, the Award for doing all Endurance Quests, and then the Award for doing every single non-DLC quest in the entire game. I feel accomplished.

YET, there's still 11 Awards left. I know what three are, Gold Mini and Gold King for all monsters, and one to get 10 maxed out weapons in every class and 50 G rank armor pieces...but the other Eight...not sure there. One might be to max out Cha-Cha, which I haven't done yet.
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Oh man, I think the dumbest thing I've done in this game was try to do Deviljho in the buff with a switch axe. I failed miserably the first time.

The second time my friend and I had an epic victory where we had mere seconds left before the quest ended. We chased it down to the secret area and unleashed hell on it, killing it tight before time was up.
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Hypermug Wrote:Oh man, I think the dumbest thing I've done in this game was try to do Deviljho in the buff with a switch axe. I failed miserably the first time.

The second time my friend and I had an epic victory where we had mere seconds left before the quest ended. We chased it down to the secret area and unleashed hell on it, killing it tight before time was up.

Deviljho is pretty scary when you first see him, but he's actually really easy as a blademaster. Just stick by his legs. You take more damage running around like a headless chicken trying to avoid his attacks then if you just stick close/under him. Most of his attacks involve him twisting and lunging forward, while he only has one or two very telltale attacks that can hit you when you're at his legs.
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Polantaris Wrote:Deviljho is pretty scary when you first see him, but he's actually really easy as a blademaster. Just stick by his legs. You take more damage running around like a headless chicken trying to avoid his attacks then if you just stick close/under him. Most of his attacks involve him twisting and lunging forward, while he only has one or two very telltale attacks that can hit you when you're at his legs.

Yeah, pretty much this. One of my friends used to dodge most of Deviljho's attacks on Tri just by walking through them, and he says it's really not much different for 3U in terms of how easy it is to avoid.

For me, Deviljho is about like Barioth was in Tri, in that I can just roll into nearly all of his attacks with Evasion +1.
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Polantaris Wrote:Deviljho is pretty scary when you first see him, but he's actually really easy as a blademaster. Just stick by his legs. You take more damage running around like a headless chicken trying to avoid his attacks then if you just stick close/under him. Most of his attacks involve him twisting and lunging forward, while he only has one or two very telltale attacks that can hit you when you're at his legs.

IUNNO MAN...I'd be fine with that if I actually had armor on (I generally stick close to him anyway), but I just kept getting 2-shotted(?). I just need to continue learning how to time my attacks better.
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How many hours would you guys say this game will give you, especially for a beginner? I've never in my life played a Monster Hunter game but lately I've been SUPER interested in Ultimate. I keep watching videos on Youtube and ProJared's Twitch recordings. I tried the demo out on my 3DS and really enjoyed it. I sucked hard the first attempt and died twice but I really improved every try after that and got to the point where not only was I not dying at all but I was using less HP potions, and killing Lagombi faster and faster. I felt really accomplished.

I just want to know how large the game is seeing as how every time I check videos of it I end up seeing more and more stuff that's new.
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案山子 Wrote:How many hours would you guys say this game will give you, especially for a beginner? I've never in my life played a Monster Hunter game but lately I've been SUPER interested in Ultimate. I keep watching videos on Youtube and ProJared's Twitch recordings. I tried the demo out on my 3DS and really enjoyed it. I sucked hard the first attempt and died twice but I really improved every try after that and got to the point where not only was I not dying at all but I was using less HP potions, and killing Lagombi faster and faster. I felt really accomplished.

I just want to know how large the game is seeing as how every time I check videos of it I end up seeing more and more stuff that's new.

It really 100% completely depends on how much you intend to invest into the game. It has no story (well, almost no story), so the longevity of the game will completely depend on you setting goals for yourself. There's 40 Awards (Read: Achievements) that you can get as well, which all in all will take a very long time to accomplish (Well over 500 hours). Then you can set your own goals, like getting every weapon/armor set, or getting X kills on every monster, and all kinds of stuff like that. The game doesn't get stale because every fight is very unique, so it's all about how much monster genocide you can put yourself through.

There is progression, of course, but if you're hoping for a meaningful story you will not find it with MH3U. MH4 apparently is going to have it, though. We'll see.
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Monster Hunter in a lot of respects is like a giant monster movie; You need to go into it expecting no more story than "monster appears and gets the pomegranate beat out of it", except that you're the one beating the pomegranate out of it and then you follow up by making armor and weapons from its corpse.

Also like a monster movie, it's really fun. This game requires you be able to learn and adapt in the middle of a hunt, though, or else you're not gonna do well.
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Yeah I'm aware there's really no story at this point considering I have to have watched well over 30hours of gameplay so far, but the battles look super fun and the one I had on the demo didn't disappoint even though it was a scrubby monster compared to the pomegranate I've seen from videos of late game. I'd probably play the game taking my time crafting up different armor and stuff before moving to the next stuff.

Hope I can get this for my birthday or something. Frown

Edit: Also, does the game scale? I notice some of the quests are pineappleing insane, killing 2+ giant monsters in less than an hour and I keep wondering "is that even possible solo..?" since I'd be getting this for 3DS and will be foreveralone.
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I got Monster Hunter for the 3DS just recently. Have about 13~14hrs in and still trying out weapons. I like the bow but dam is it expensive to maintain. So im pretty much gonna hold off on it till money is easier. (I dont like to sell things)

So anyway I was wondering if the Sword +sheild are viable or is it mostly a beginner type weapon?(even though I am a beginner.) I like how It has both blunt and slash attacks.
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hey i still run my Monster Hunter on the PSP Big Grin and I still have so much of the game to cover. It really depends on how you want to play the game. I for one wnat to start gemming different sets and gather money for the parts. I spent like 10hrs + trying to get shogun set only to realize I need 5 monoblos hearts to get the skill so now I am diving into Yian Garuga armor and learning to lance on the side.

Easiest weapon in my eyes is the hunting horn even if you don't use songs. Because you know the 1 basic attack is the Super Pound and with the earlier monsters it is easier to get used to their attacks and timings with it. SnS + Dual Swords require good timing because you need a lot of attacks to kill mobs and sometimes you can get greedy with it.

What is the best status/element to go for? In terms of killing speed? And should I keep my hammers raw?
How much time does it take to invest in multiple weapons for the game?
I want to lance and gunlance more(gunlances are good tail cutters because of the big upward swing), continue hammering, have a few hunting horns, have some dope SnS+DualSwords for occasional use, still not sure about greatSwords, NO longswords because there is no challenge to them/fun, Bows+Bowguns if only if I have to verse stupid hitboxes like plesioth
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Sword and Shield is by no means a beginners-only weapon. It's easy to pick up, sure, but getting good at it takes time and practice and like any weapon can become very effective once you get it down.
The Sword and Shield allows for sustained damage along with the added bonus of being able to use items without sheathing your weapon.

Most people view it as weak, but that's because they like huge damage straight away with stuff like Hammer or Great Sword. While it doesn't do a lot of damage at once, it makes up for it in a large elemental modifier and high amounts of element/status damage, though people who don't know better will probably be less inclined to let you in a group.

Also, while the shield is useful in a pinch, don't rely on it. Even with skills like Guard +2 or Guard Boost, you'll still take some miniscule damage when guarding unlike Lance or Gunlance which will block damage altogether. Dodging with SnS is much more preferred, with the shield being for stuff you know you won't be able to avoid.

All in all, if you're able to get good with SnS, you'll do fine, although I would recommend learning a second weapon with some reach on it, like Lance/Gunlance or Switch Axe, that way you can reach some of the harder to hit tails on stuff like Rathalos or Deviljho.
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valhala556 Wrote:I got Monster Hunter for the 3DS just recently. Have about 13~14hrs in and still trying out weapons. I like the bow but dam is it expensive to maintain. So im pretty much gonna hold off on it till money is easier. (I dont like to sell things)

So anyway I was wondering if the Sword +sheild are viable or is it mostly a beginner type weapon?(even though I am a beginner.) I like how It has both blunt and slash attacks.

Once you get semi-decently far into the game you won't worry about how much Coatings cost anymore. Early on they can be expensive but once you're at 4 or 5*, you shouldn't have any problems with how much they cost anymore.

As for SnS: I've always found SnS to be a very enjoyable weapon. The reason it's considered a beginners weapon is because some guy made formulas for the melee weapons in Tri and determined that it had the lowest multipliers and lowest DPS of any other weapon. People are so focused on how much damage you do and not focused on having fun, which is what really matters, and the end result is that SnS was shunned regardless of the fact that it was an extremely versatile and mobile weapon, regardless of its low damage. I personally find SnS to be one of the easiest weapons to learn how to dodge properly with, because you can do it at almost any moment, in any part of any combo, except for the overhead swing at the end of the base X combo (which is also the weakest attack in its moveset, so I suggest just never using it and cancelling it with Y combos).

Ever since P3rd, EVERY weapon was massively revamped in terms of formulas. Bow used to be, by far, the weakest weapon in the entire game. It had the shittiest damage multiplier and by far the strictest rules for its damage output (you had to be EXACTLY the correct distance or your damage plummeted). Since, Bow and SnS have received major backend overhauls in their damage formulas, which results in them being far better than they used to be. No one has done straight damage formulas that are easy to understand like there was for Tri, so as a result everyone just jumps to the Tri numbers which are massively outdated and old, but people cling to them even so.

You can check out this link for direct damage multipliers by clicking the green Menu button, then hitting the Damage tab. A simple (and kind of off, but works regardless) way to explain how damage works is that when you hit an enemy, the type of attack that hits has an elemental and raw multiplier. The area of the monster you hit also has both a raw multiplier, and an elemental multiplier. All of these things are considered when you do damage. So, for example, when you hit with the Jumping Slash (the X+Y/Unsheathe Attack), you do .17x your damage, so basically 17%. You then multiply that with the defense on the monster part. So for example, Rathalos' head has a multiplier of .75, or 75%. So you do (Raw * .17 * .75). Elemental has its own multipliers, which are missing from this site for each weapon however monster elemental weaknesses are available, which helps.

It's a tad confusing, I know. Basically, if your SnS has a Raw of 400, you do 400 * .17 * .75 = 51 damage per hit to the head with the Jumping Slash. It seems low, but monsters in MH don't have that much health in actuality (You should use an HP hack on a PSP version to see how low it actually is, it's not very high). Even for SnS it seems pretty low, but consider how often you hit, and also elemental damage.

TL;DR version: SnS doesn't suck. It's not a beginners weapon. People are just petty and stupid. Also formulas.
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Thanks for the replies. I do wanna look into the elemental stuff more. Also I know you can play the 3DS version online using a wii U, adaptor and some apps but in doing that do you use the TV for the screen or your 3DS?

And ill continue playing around with weapons.
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valhala556 Wrote:Thanks for the replies. I do wanna look into the elemental stuff more. Also I know you can play the 3DS version online using a wii U, adaptor and some apps but in doing that do you use the TV for the screen or your 3DS?

And ill continue playing around with weapons.

You play on the 3DS, the TV screen is used for selecting a port (room). A thing to note is that you can't host your own port if you play from the 3DS via the Wii-U. You have to join someone else's room.
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Just got the game as well as the circle pad XL the other day and have put in almost 24hours into it. This pomegranate is pineappleing amazing how the hell have I never played Monster Hunter before?! :f6:

Royal Ludroth being a royal pain in my ass and barely gives me any claws. I pretty much have to get lucky that he pities me and hands them over since I have killed him at least 6 times and have NEVER once been able to smash either claw. Tail, face, or his mango-mane? No problem. Claws? LOL nah. Doesn't help that his claws seem to be more heavily plated than anything else on his body so you're out of luck if you don't have at least green sharpness. My new Barroth greatsword is helping but it still isn't enough to ever break them before he dies :/

Also, I heard Barroth was called the "noob killer" but to be quite honest Royal Ludroth is far more aggressive than Barroth, and you fight him before Barroth as well. Fought the Gobul for the first time yesterday and it was so satisfying to break his lantern. Biggrin
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