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The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-22
Welcome to the Southperry Monster Hunter Online Group!
[COLOR="#000080"]Release Date Of Monster Hunter Ultimate 3:
NA:03/19/13
EU:03/22/13
JP:12/08/12[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#000080"]Single Player
Multiplayer(if you have 3 3ds to connect with your wii-u)
Online Multiplayer(Wii-u only)[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#000080"]Compatible Controller:
Wii-u Gamepad
Wii-u Pro controller
Circle Pro Pad(3ds) [/COLOR]
Why did you makes this topic?
To build up a subcommunity of Hunters within Southperry,so we can have easy access to a list of Hunters who want to play online.
Okay,so what is the difference from Monster Hunter Tri for the wii?
Quite a bit actually,here is a list created by the user Felix_Trapper over by Gamefaqs that shows all the changes:
Spoiler
G E N E R A L - D I F F E R E N C E S
Supports 1080p resolution
3DS and Wii U games are able to connect and play together locally.
G-Rank difficulty adds new challenges
New companion, Kayamba, joins alongside Cha-cha.
A companion can now join you in online mode if there is an empty slot.
Awards, similar to achievements, for completing certain tasks. (44 in total)
Supports text chat via with gamepad (no longer requires USB keyboard, though that is an option alongside built-in voice chat)
A new feature called Target Camera allows hunters to center the camera on nearby large monsters
Touch screen can be used for item combining and map/menu
A R E A S
*Sacred Land now has a ballista weapon for use
*Tower 3 area from Freedom Unite. Arena like area where rare monsters can be fought (Silver Rathalos, Gold Rathian, etc.)
*New Mountain Peaks area from Portable 3rd. Entire zone comparable in size to the other levels, with 9 sub-areas.
*New town, Tanjia Port, replaces Loc-Lac City.
*New 100% exclusive area, Disastrous Sea, is where players will fight Guran-Miraosu
W E A P O N S / A R M O R
*4 new weapon types: Dual Sword, Gunlance, Hunting Horn and Bow. All the weapons from Tri return.
*A new element "blast" is added to the game.
*G-rank versions of old armor receive graphical overhaul and look noticeably different
*New armor sets from all the new monsters
*New weapons from all the new monsters
S M A L L - M O N S T E R S
Gargwa, a round bird.
Zuwaroposu, a swamp herbivore.
Bullfango, a wild boar.
Anteka, an elk-like monster.
Furogi, a relative to the jaggi with a poison element.
L A R G E - M O N S T E R S
Japanese unconfirmed names in quotations
Plesioth, The Underwater Terror, Master of the Giant Lake
Lagombi, a white rabbit beast
"Dosufurogi", The Great Froggi
Duramboros, the Hammer-Tail wyvern
Nibelsnarf, Hunter Eater
Nargacuga, the Living Shadow, Black Beast
Arzuros, the blue bear beast.
Volvidon, the volcanic armadillo
Zinogre, the thunder wolf wyvern.
Brachydios, the crushing wyvern
"Guran-Miraosu"
L A R G E - M O N S T E R - S U B S P E C I E S
These are monsters with slight variations to their attacks and behavior. While some are hardly changed at all, others are changed enough that they deserve to be counted as a unique monster. (But we won't!)
===Crimson Qurupeco===
*Dwells in subtropical zones, such as the Volcano and the Flooded Forest.
*Red and blue in color.
*Unique flints
*Generates electricity instead of fire
*Can create a blinding flash
*Roar requires earplugs to block
*New song causes other monsters to enter rage mode
*Frequently summons Narcacuga.
*Larger and more aggressive
===Royal Ludroth Subspecies===
*Purple coloration
*Can inflict poison with its swipe, spitting balls, releasing poison from mane etc.
*Breathes poisonous gas when enraged
===Jade Barroth===
*Blue and Green coloration
*Lives in the Tundra
*Does U-turn charges
*Can inflict Snowman status
*tosses 3 chunks of debris at hunter with its head
*slams head, causing ice to shoot out
===Gigginox Subspecies===
*Golden-green color
*Still resides in Tundra only
*No body slam, instead creates an electric field like Lagiacrus
*Lays exploding eggs of electricity instead of hatching giggi.
*Can inflict paralysis
===Uragaan Subspecies===
*Metallic in nature as opposed to rock
*Can inflict Soiled status
*Can appear on the Deserted Island (in addition to Volcano)
===Barioth Subspecies===
*Orange-yellow color
*Lives in Sandy Plains
*New tornado attack, creating a dust devil
===Agnaktor Subspecies===
*Coated in ice
*Lives in Tundra
*Shoots water/ice beam that can sweep side to side
*Can inflict Iceblight and Waterblight
*Armor works opposite of normal Agnaktor--gets softer as it burrows
*Smaller overall than normal Agnaktor though its beak appears bigger.
===Azure Rathalos===
*Bluish/Green color
*Higher stamina
*Considerably more aggressive
*Weakness is wings instead of head
===Silver Rathalos===
*Silver, reflective coating
*Extremely high stamina/aggressiveness
*Very rare, usually only fought events
*Roar requires HG Earplugs to block
*Tendency to stay airborne longer than usual
===Pink Rathian===
*Pink coloring
*Stronger attacks
*More armor
*Higher health
*Emphasizes tail attacks more
===Gold Rathian===
*Gold coloring
*Exceptionally hard shell, difficult to pierce (Yes we know gold is a very soft metal)
*Roar requires HG Earplugs to block
*Can link a backflip attack to a fireball
*Can perform a surprise backflip as she's getting up from being knocked down
===Black Diablos===
*Technically not a subspecies, this has been confirmed to be a female Diablos
*Black coloring
*Stronger attacks, though it shares the same movepool as normal Diablos.
===Ceadeus Subspecies===
*Darker coloring
*Has 2 big horns instead of 1, totalling 4 horn carves
*2nd water beam attack the sweeps side to side instead of up and down
*50 minute limit as opposed to 30
*More agile in the water, can quickly ascend to the top of ruins
*Cannot be repelled, must be slain
*Limited only to the final area, does not travel through the ruin.
===Lagiacrus Subspecies===
*White coloring
*Spends a lot more time on land
===Lagiacrus Rare Species===
*Dark indigo coloring
*Extremely rare, fought in the underwater ruin
*Always in a fully charged state
*Spins rapidly in circles, creating whirlpools
*Much stronger electrical discharge attack with wider radius
*5 carves instead of the usual 3
*Immune to traps and cannot be captured
===Jhen Mohran Subspecies===
*Purple coloring
*Fought in the same manner
*Different attack order
*One new attack, spewing out sand.
Rules of the Online Hunter
Yes we have a "Guideline" of Hunting Online,we want to create a Welcoming environment for New Hunters,as well as Veterans and if you want to be added to the list follow these Rules:
Don't slack off when hunting with a group!
Be kind to your fellow hunters!
Have fun!
The Golden Hunter Tips To Victory(Newbies should read!)
One of our valuable Hunters ,Polantaris ,has provide our topic with amazing tips for surviving the Monster Hunter world:
Weapon Pros/Cons, Dos/Donts
Below is each individual weapon type's pros, cons, do's and don'ts based on my experience and opinion. Others may disagree with them, however I've been playing Monster Hunter for quite some time and I feel that my experience as both a user and someone who has played with others using the various weapons helps bring some insight into each weapon type.
For most scenarios, these tips shouldn't be a strict guideline, but more of things to consider and think about when playing, especially in Multiplayer.
Some general guidelines before I begin:
- When using any weapon in multiplayer, always be mindful of your fellow hunters. This is a cooperative game for a reason. You should be trying to avoid making their life miserable, or hitting them in general. No one is perfect, mistakes can be made, but constantly tossing your allies can result in you losing a hunting group. Always try to be aware of where they are and how your attacks and combos will effect them. It's not always about YOU doing the most damage, there's no rankings. There's only winning or losing. To that end, always try to act in the best interest in the entire group. I've seen missions fail in streams and in my own runs because of hunters being stupid, causing ally deaths due to their obliviousness of their surroundings.
- Traps are best used when the enemy is exhausted. They last longer on monsters that are exhausted. You can easily determine that a monster is exhausted if it starts moving slowly, staggering, or just sitting there with drool out of its face and taunting a lot.
- Most items are situational. This very much includes Flash Bombs. Do not spam them. A random acting monster is FAR WORSE than one that is not. With the revamp in Tri, there are very few situations in which Flash Bombs are useful. One situation is when you wish to down Rathalos, because he flies way too much. Flash Bombs can do this. They are less effective the more you use them, so be aware of that. All items have a place, but no item's place is everywhere.
- Try to leave Mining and Gathering to solo Gathering runs. There's nothing more annoying than a hunter that goes out and mines while you're fighting the monster alone. If it's a group concensus to go and gather before fighting the monster, that's fine, but do not do it without an understanding within the group. Gathering Missions exist for a reason, and you can easily do them on your own. There's no reason to NEED to do Gathering when on a regular run online.
- As a rule of thumb, you can usually continue to attack with melee weapons until you reach the low ends of Green Sharpness. Every enemy has areas that are open to Green Sharpness, so it can also help you find where they are weakest. Don't sharpen just because you lose Purple or White Sharpness, you're wasting Whetstones when you do this.
- Know your role with your weapon. If you're Hammer, don't be attacking the tail. If there's a Hammer user in your group, don't attack the head, that's their job.
- You can determine the effectiveness of anywhere you strike without a guide based on the special effect that gets generated when you attack. It is easier to determine in the Japanese versions of the game due to blood effects that are removed for US/EU versions, however the striking animation is still deeper and more red the more damage is done. You can use this to determine the best area to strike any enemy.
- Always pay attention to what the enemy is doing. You can easily determine when to and when not to attack based on how the enemy is acting. As you get better you can tell just what most monsters are going to do based on how they start their attacks. You should use these tells to your advantage.
Individual Weapon Information:
Sword and Shield
Pros:
- Fast Weapon with quick combos and acceptable KO abilities.
- Shield able to block light attacks.
- Can use items while weapon is unsheathed.
- Great Mobility
Cons:
- Sheild cannot block powerful attacks at all.
- Medium strength attacks can be blocked however you still lose some health.
- The middle of the base combo is a Blunt attack. This sounds good, however it can break the combo if you hit a part of the monster that is strong against blunt. The following section of the attack can also toss allies.
- Shield Bash can toss allies.
- Easily interrupted from other sources including allies.
- Needs to sharpen more frequently than some other weapons.
Dos:
- Use the Jump Slash to close the distance between yourself and your target.
- Focus more on quick in-and-out tactics. SnS has great mobility that allows you to get quick jabs in and rush out before the enemy can react.
- Make use of the ability to use items while your weapon is unsheathed, it's the only weapon that can do this!
- Attack areas that are weak to both slash and blunt. Slash is more important, however bouncing due to the mid-combo blunt can get you killed.
Don'ts:
- Don't complete the base combo if there are allies on top of you. The finishing portion of it will toss them.
- Don't block unless you have to. Dodging often costs less stamina and there's no chance of partial or failed blocks which saves you health.
- Don't sit there! Always be moving, it's what makes mobile weapons so great.
Dual Swords
Pros:
- Extremely fast combos.
- Can spread status ailments quickly if the weapon has one.
- Unique dash dodge when Demonization Bar or Demonization is active.
- Two movesets, Demonization Mode and Regular.
- Great Mobility
Cons:
- Combos can be long, leaving you open to attack.
- Demonization Bar drains quickly, and when not active the mobility of the weapon suffers.
- Dash Juice duration is shortened for this weapon (Blame X+Y Spammers in earlier games).
- Due to large, quick combos, this weapon eats sharpness for breakfast.
- Having less than full Stamina can hurt your ability to fight with this weapon.
Dos:
- Bring a lot of Whetstones, because as mentioned earlier, Duals eat sharpness for breakfast.
- Mix Demonization and Regular mode. Don't always stay in Demonization or you won't be able to dodge when you need to, and never entering Demonization will harm your mobility.
- Bring Meat, or if necessary Dash Juice. Full Stamina at all times is a great idea.
- Always have the Demonization Bar active, the dash dodge is extremely efficient and a powerful tool, and the power boost doesn't hurt either.
Don'ts:
- Do not Spam X+Y. It's inefficient and will get you killed.
- Try not to use Dash Juice. You end up wasting it because it lasts about half the time as normal with this weapon.
- Don't stay in only Demonization or Regular. Switching between them is the key to success.
Great Sword
Pros:
- High Damage weapon.
- Can block most attacks.
- Efficient Sharpness-wise, due to low frequency of hitting.
Cons:
- Some attacks can take away health when guarded. Sharpness is always lost when guarding.
- Slow attack speed and low mobility.
- Charge Attack needs to be timed perfectly to do optimal damage.
- Most attacks from this weapon are either wide ranged or can send allies flying.
Dos:
- Use the Charge Attack as much as possible. It does a lot of damage.
- ALWAYS be the one to wake a sleeping monster with a fully charged attack. You will do A LOT of damage, more than any other weapon is capable.
- Try to chain attacks back into a Charge Attack with either the 360 Slash or the Uppercut Slash (see below).
- Sheathe your weapon if the enemy is far away. Don't dodge or crawl towards them.
Don'ts:
- Don't use an Uppercut Slash when allies are infront of you, you will send them flying.
- Don't block unnecessairly, dodging is always the best alternative if you can avoid an attack altogether.
- Don't overcharge, and don't keep charging in hopes of the enemy returning to you. If you see that they are about to get away from you, end a charge early and try to hit them before they get away.
- Don't ever be a sitting duck. You may move slow but you're not immobile.
Longsword
NOTE: I don't really use LS (Because of Con #1 mostly). I don't really have all that much to say about it, but what I do is listed here.
Pros:
- Mobile and decently fast Weapon.
- Large Range (Also a Con).
- Spirit Bar that increases damage output the more filled it is.
- Cannot KO and has no Blunt attacks, resulting in low Exhausting ability.
Cons:
- Large Range. Why is this both a Pro and a Con? In multiplayer games, it can drive your allies insane because it can constantly interrupt them. In my opinion, this makes LS the worst multiplayer weapon available. I have suffered deaths because of being stun-locked by LS allies not paying attention to their allies' locations.
- Imprecise attacks. You can often get stuck bouncing on the wrong area due to the large attack radius.
Dos:
- Try to keep the Spirit Gauge filled.
- Always pay attention to your allies' locations. This is especially important for this weapon because of how easy it can hit them.
Don'ts:
- Do not Spirit Combo while allies are close to you. You can get them killed.
- Do not use the finisher if there are allies infront of you. The finisher sends you a mile forward and hits everything remotely near you in that distance.
Switch Axe
NOTE: I don't use Switch Axe. This section will be short. Looking for more information for it.
Pros:
- Two mode weapon that can switch between a slow powerful axe and a elementally charged sword.
- Versatile weapon that can be used in many situations.
Cons:
- Slow movement, and also cannot block.
- Has multiple moves that lock you into position, making you vulnerable.
Dos:
- Try to keep good rotation between Sword and Axe mode to do optimal damage.
Don'ts:
- Don't use the stamina draining infinite swing. It does low damage, wastes stamina, and most of all locks you into position for a long period of time. It is all around bad.
Hammer
Pros:
- Mobile Weapon due to the ability to charge while moving.
- Main KOing and Exhausting weapon. Can easily KO monsters and Exhaust quickly due to all hits being Blunt.
- Multiple ways to attack due to a three-stage charge and multiple combos that are available off of them.
- Doesn't need to sharpen as often as some weapons.
Cons:
- Cannot cut tails.
- Has low mobility mid-combo. Once you start it you're not going anywhere without some delay.
- Has slow combos.
Dos:
- Try to be charging even when a decent distance away from the enemy, due to the time it takes to charge. Use your best judgement.
- Use the 2nd Stage Charge attack a lot. It covers a lot of distance quickly and also has a large vertical range. A good way to start a combo.
- Be mindful of your Stamina before you begin to charge.
- Prepare for enemy attacks ahead of time, don't continue a combo unless you know you're safe.
- Be mindful of where your allies are, because you can toss them with your attacks.
Don'ts:
- Don't use the 3rd Stage Charge Spin (Moving while releasing the button). It's a waste of time, does low damage, low KO, and will leave you open for far too long. You will likely not finish it and take damage.
- Don't use the 3rd Stage Charge Smash (Not moving while releasing the button) when allies are near you. It has a large range and can toss allies.
NOTE FOR HAMMER: In my personal opinion, people who are attacking the head when you're hammer qualify for you to ignore the second Don't. They should know their role and should not be attacking the head if you are Hammer (unless they are also Hammer or they are HH). If they don't know their role, they are asking for you to toss them, because the roles are pretty simple when it comes to this. If they are on top of the head and you have the perfect opportunity for a 3rd Stage Charge Smash, go right ahead and do it. It's their fault for not doing what they should be doing.
Hunting Horn
Pros:
- Can dish out a wide variety of buffs for yourself and your party.
- Can KO and Exhaust similarly to a Hammer.
- Can increase its own mobility to be faster than many other weapons.
Cons:
- Can be hard to learn, very combo oriented.
- Cannot cut tails (Apparently in P3rd it had one attack that did VERY low Slash damage. It was not viable for solo cutting, and as a result I still consider it unable to cut tails even if this was not a glitch and is still a slashing attack).
- Must temporarily pause to deliver buffs, which otherwise never take effect. Cannot deliver more than one buff at a time, and notes must be replayed to deliver a new buff.
- Wide variety of note types while every HH only has 3 different notes means that some HHs will be completely useless in some scenarios, due to lack of buffs that are good for the situation. There is a potential for some HHs to be completely useless due to bad note combinations.
Dos:
- Work your buffs into your attacks and combos.
- Keep an eye on your buffs and try to keep them constantly up. An entire group with constant Attack Up Large can do far more damage than you alone if you forget to keep it up. Although not every HH will have that buff, the principle is the same.
- If you have the Health Increase buff, use it when your allies need it. Be mindful if they are using the armor skill Adrenaline though, as they want to keep low HP for that. It might be a good idea to determine what buffs are not good to use in a group due to various armor skills.
- Know your HH. Know what it can play, what it can't play, and how to get each individual buff in case you need it at any time.
Don'ts:
- Do not sit in the background and buff. There's a reason HH was completely revamped to allow fighting and buffing at the same time. Take advantage of this.
- Do not deliver buffs if you are in danger. The notes will not reset or change as long as you do not attack, so take the time to get safe before you play.
Lance
Pros:
- Complete control over where you attack, very precise.
- Best shield possible. Still cannot block everything without armor skills, but most are blockable.
- Effective and powerful counter ability.
- Able to attack and rush forward at the same time with a charge attack.
- Able to move while guarding, albiet very slowly.
Cons:
- Slow movement while unsheathed.
- Slow attack speed.
- Bad mobilty makes you rely on perfect dodging, countering, or guarding to stay alive when being barraged by the enemy.
- Missing a counter makes you immobile for a long period of time.
Dos:
- Use the Charge Attack to shorten small distances between yourself and your enemy. This is the only attack from Lance that can bother your allies by tossing them, though, so don't rush into them.
- Try to use the counter whenever possible, as it guards many types of attacks while also dishing out large damage to your enemy in response.
Don'ts:
- DO NOT TURTLE. Turtling is when you guard all the time, crawling along the ground and then guard stabbing. Guard stabs do terrible damage, and turtling is actually more harmful than helpful, as you often get yourself hurt by guard stabbing at the worst time, or just by getting hit from behind because you're not moving. Never turtle.
- Don't use the Charge attack to shorten large distances. It's better to sheathe your weapon and run, because you lose your ability to control your direction, and will often get hurt when charging long distances.
Gunlance
Pros:
- Able to use a special ability, the Wyvern Fire, every few minutes.
- Can shoot shells based on the type of gunlance.
- Precise attacks, like the Lance.
- Shield exactly like the Lance.
Cons:
- Can only dodge consecutively three times, in comparison to the Lance which can dodge as many times as you want so long as you have Stamina to do it.
- Slow movement while unsheathed.
- Slow attack speed.
- Cannot counter.
- Cannot charge attack.
Dos:
- Use the Wyvern Fire when it is ready. It takes nothing to use except some time and does decent damage. Just make sure you have the five or so seconds it takes and that the monster will still be there when it sets off.
- Pay attention to the Gunlance itself. When Wyvern Fire is unable to be used a little tab will pop out of most Gunlances. When this closes you can use it again.
- You can use shells to extend your stabbing combos if appropriate in the situation.
- Dodge wisely, because you can only dodge three times in a row.
Don'ts:
- DO NOT TURTLE. Turtling is when you guard all the time, crawling along the ground and then guard stabbing. Guard stabs do terrible damage, and turtling is actually more harmful than helpful, as you often get yourself hurt by guard stabbing at the worst time, or just by getting hit from behind because you're not moving. Never turtle.
- Don't use Wyvern Fire when allies are within range of it, as it will toss them.
Light Bowgun
NOTE: I don't really use Bowguns, but I've tried to assemble some useful information for them.
Pros:
- Mid-level mobility for ranged weapons. It is worse than Bows but better than Heavy Bowgun in this department.
- Wide variety of different shot types give the ability to adapt to almost any situation.
- Rapid Fire upgraded bullet types (differs per bowgun) allows for multiple shots from one bullet. Extremely efficient when a status ailment shot type is effected by this.
- Extra inventory page for gunners allows more shots and more materials for extra shots.
Cons:
- Cannot block (Compared to HBG which can).
- When you run out of ammo you are stuck with Normal Lv.1, which does almost no damage.
- Reliant on the ability to make more ammo in the field.
- Rapid Fire immobilizes for a long period of time.
Dos:
- Try to get a bowgun with Rapid Fire on Status Ailments, because they can take effect quicker and more frequently for less shots with this. Unknown how practical this is, though, without seeing all the available weapons.
- Always bring materials to make more shots, you never know when you will need them. It's okay to start with a full inventory as shots used will free up space.
- Try to have a bowgun with some status aliments, even if they are not rapid fire. Ranged weapons are exceptional at dishing out status effects.
- If you get stuck with Normal Lv.1 with the suspicion that the monster still has a lot of HP left, it may be better to quit if you are solo. Normal Lv.1 does pitiful damage and if you could kill it, it would probably take the remainder of the quest time. Better to redo with a different setup.
Don'ts:
- Do not shoot too close, as you will lose damage if you do.
- Do not combine new materials while you are wide open to attack. Get safe first.
- Use your mobility and move around when you can.
Heavy Bowgun
NOTE: I don't really use Bowguns, but I've tried to assemble some useful information for them.
Pros:
- Low-level mobility for ranged weapons. It is worse than Bows and Light Bowguns.
- Wide variety of different shot types give the ability to adapt to almost any situation.
- Has special barrage mode that lets you shoot without reloading.
- Extra inventory page for gunners allows more shots and more materials for extra shots.
- Has a mediocre shield for defending about two thirds of attack types.
Cons:
- Barrage mode leaves you extremely open and easy to hit.
- Defending may still reduce health, but at a lower cost.
- When you run out of ammo you are stuck with Normal Lv.1, which does almost no damage.
- Reliant on the ability to make more ammo in the field.
Dos:
- Use Barrage mode when you know you are safe. Perhaps on a ledge or when an ally has the monster distracted, or when it is in a trap.
- Always bring materials to make more shots, you never know when you will need them. It's okay to start with a full inventory as shots used will free up space.
- Try to have a bowgun with some status aliments, even if they are not rapid fire. Ranged weapons are exceptional at dishing out status effects.
- If you get stuck with Normal Lv.1 with the suspicion that the monster still has a lot of HP left, it may be better to quit if you are solo. Normal Lv.1 does pitiful damage and if you could kill it, it would probably take the remainder of the quest time. Better to redo with a different setup.
Don'ts:
- Do not shoot too close, as you will lose damage if you do.
- Do not combine new materials while you are wide open to attack. Get safe first.
- If you need to scale smaller distances, it is probably better to dodge over, instead of sheathing and unsheathing again.
- Try to dodge, however if you are unsure of if you can dodge you are probably better off guarding if possible.
Bow
Pros:
- Extremely mobile weapon. Most mobile out of all ranged weapons.
- Gets the extra gunner page, however has less materials and shot types over the bowguns.
- Has infinite ammo, and instead has Coatings that improve or modify regular shots.
- Has unique rain barrage attack, that can KO.
- Has multiple types of shots based on the Bow itself that allows you to adapt to any situation.
- Coatings provide the ability to dish out all types of status ailments provided the bow allows for them.
Cons:
- Coatings provide the bulk of the flexibility of the Bow. Bows with less available coatings or when you run out of coatings hurts the overall performance of the weapon.
- Stamina plays a huge role, bigger than most other weapons. Having low stamina is the same as having a limited ability to attack.
- Barrage attacks can disable allies.
- Damage is extremely influenced by range of shots. Too close and too far away reduce damage.
Dos:
- Use Barrage when allies are not near the enemy.
- Learn the default aim arch and default barrage range to improve overall performance using the weapon.
- Attempt to obtain optimal damage at all times, which is obtained by hitting the enemy where the aim line peaks in its arch.
- Always carry all available coatings, you never know when you'll need them. Also always carry materials to make more if you can.
- Make use of your status coatings. There's no reason not to give yourself an edge in battle.
- Always use 3rd or 4th Charge shots if able.
- Pay attention to what types of shots each charge is. If Pierce Shot is 2nd charge and the enemy is far away while 3rd charge is Rapid or Scatter, it is better to use 2nd Charge to hit your enemy before they get too far away, even if it means reduced damage.
- As long as you have stamina, you should always be charging a shot. You can move while charging, so there's no excuse to ever be not charging so long as you have Stamina.
- You can dodge at any time as long as you have the Stamina. Do this to cancel charged shots or to dodge the enemy.
Don'ts:
- Never spam 1st Charge shots. They are equivilent to hitting an enemy with a red sharpness sword. 2nd Charge is better but not recommended either except in situations that call for it.
- Never use Wide-Area Barrage Shot. It does low damage, hits allies far too much and in too wide of a range.
- Don't waste Coatings. If your enemy is out of range, dodge to cancel the shot and chase. Don't just let go of the arrow and waste a coating, you're limited on how many you have.
Many thanks to Polantaris! If you have any questions or suggestions about his tips just ask him!
The Hunter's List
Vontos-NNID:Vontos(Contact infomation: PM and later Skype)[US][Regular]
Polantaris-NNIDolantaris(Contact infomation: PM here, or on the Wii U,or mention in thread)[NA][Veteran]
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The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Chicocl - 2013-02-22
People are crying on kotaku because they can't play a real skill game. They hate the lack of auto lock in monster hunter (Something I love for the realism of the game), they hate the lack of an exp bar with improved skills so they can just fail a mission like 100 times till their skills just one hit KO the large monster.
I'm really worried about the game industry right now, they can't really accept a game that rewards skills and effort, they just want another generic shooter, an easy auto lock game or a grinding exp game where losing is being rewarded. I loved the 3DS demo and my friend started playing MH with the Wii U demo and he told me that he is totally buying the game. I'll probably get the Circle Pro pad.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-22
Yeah Monster Hunter smacks the modern gamer hard, it isn't easy bash bash bash on the monster,play reckless on the game and that is pretty much quest lost. I don't really feel like spending money on a circle pro pad for one game,I just feel like the camera overall is a learning curve for the 3ds.(PS lol kotaku)
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Kirov - 2013-02-22
Well they basically made the Circle Pad Pro just for MH.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Polantaris - 2013-02-22
I agree with the OP completely.
The Wii U version looks, plays, sounds, and feels(except below) absolutely fantastic. Considering how much time I know I'm going to put into MH3U, my Wii U was worth it already.
That being said, they BETTER have an option for ZL/R to control the camera. There's just no excuse for ZL to do nothing, and ZR to be a toggle for a touchscreen control. Absolutely retarded. They need to fix that. In MH3 on the Wii, if you had a CCPro, those buttons were still crap and they controlled underwater stuff. I don't understand how it's such a hard concept for two triggers that aren't being used to be used for camera left/right. It makes no sense to me.
It's also very hard for me to adjust to using a second analog for camera control when all my time in Frontier I used an Xbox controller and set L/RT to...you guessed it, Camera Left/Right. It pains me to see those buttons be useless.
As for the 3DS version...
The font is pomegranate. Absolute pomegranate. Even on the XL it's hard to read. 20 on the item box looked like 2C, except the C was backwards.
The sound is...okay. I don't know if it's the 3DS's speakers or not, but the sound is bleh.
On the reverse side, the 3D is fantastic. The graphics are also far better than I had expected.
The touch screen camera, while not Capcom's fault, just amplifies the need for a 2nd Analog without a crappy attachment. There's no reason it shouldn't have been a part of the handheld in the first place.
Overall, it's not awful, but the Wii U version is vastly superior.
I'm definitely going to get both, but that's mostly because I want to support the franchise in the US. MH4 is showing to be a rather interesting game when it gets released, and with Nintendo consoles being region locked I really want it to get localized.
Vontos Wrote:(still hate plessy and I always will)
Plesioth was instantly an utter disappointment. They didn't change him at all. They gave him a few new underwater specific attacks, and then the rest of his underwater attacks are duplicates of his land attacks...and he has no new land attacks that I noticed at all. He's just as retarded, oversized, and annoying as he always has been. I know I will never be meleeing him ever. It's just not worth the frustration. Plesioth is one monster they should have never brought back, or really created in the first place. He's pineappleing awful.
Speaking of water, I can't say I missed underwater combat after playing P3rd.
Chicocl Wrote:People are crying on kotaku because they can't play a real skill game. They hate the lack of auto lock in monster hunter (Something I love for the realism of the game), they hate the lack of an exp bar with improved skills so they can just fail a mission like 100 times till their skills just one hit KO the large monster.
I'm really worried about the game industry right now, they can't really accept a game that rewards skills and effort, they just want another generic shooter, an easy auto lock game or a grinding exp game where losing is being rewarded. I loved the 3DS demo and my friend started playing MH with the Wii U demo and he told me that he is totally buying the game. I'll probably get the Circle Pro pad.
Welcome to all reviews and complaints by people who can't play Monster Hunter. That's generally the complaints I've been hearing since way back in the day when I got Freedom 1. They're such old complaints at this point that I cannot even attempt to take them seriously, I just laugh.
Ever see one of those threads on GameFAQs that suggest ways to improve MH? First on the list is always lock on. Second is usually EXP. Third is usually magic. Second and third could be switched. It's hard to take any negative attitudes about Monster Hunter seriously when they always suggest to destroy the fundamental concepts behind the game. Not to say most of the positive attitudes are easy to take seriously....If there's one thing Monster Hunter attracts, it's pimentos. The Monster Hunter community is half the reason Monster Hunter isn't more popular here. They attack and insult everyone who wants to learn, it's disgusting.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-22
Polantaris Wrote:I agree with the OP completely.
The Wii U version looks, plays, sounds, and feels(except below) absolutely fantastic. Considering how much time I know I'm going to put into MH3U, my Wii U was worth it already.
That being said, they BETTER have an option for ZL/R to control the camera. There's just no excuse for ZL to do nothing, and ZR to be a toggle for a touchscreen control. Absolutely retarded. They need to fix that. In MH3 on the Wii, if you had a CCPro, those buttons were still crap and they controlled underwater stuff. I don't understand how it's such a hard concept for two triggers that aren't being used to be used for camera left/right. It makes no sense to me.
It's also very hard for me to adjust to using a second analog for camera control when all my time in Frontier I used an Xbox controller and set L/RT to...you guessed it, Camera Left/Right. It pains me to see those buttons be useless.
As for the 3DS version...
The font is pomegranate. Absolute pomegranate. Even on the XL it's hard to read. 20 on the item box looked like 2C, except the C was backwards.
The sound is...okay. I don't know if it's the 3DS's speakers or not, but the sound is bleh.
On the reverse side, the 3D is fantastic. The graphics are also far better than I had expected.
The touch screen camera, while not Capcom's fault, just amplifies the need for a 2nd Analog without a crappy attachment. There's no reason it shouldn't have been a part of the handheld in the first place.
Overall, it's not awful, but the Wii U version is vastly superior.
I'm definitely going to get both, but that's mostly because I want to support the franchise in the US. MH4 is showing to be a rather interesting game when it gets released, and with Nintendo consoles being region locked I really want it to get localized.
Plesioth was instantly an utter disappointment. They didn't change him at all. They gave him a few new underwater specific attacks, and then the rest of his underwater attacks are duplicates of his land attacks...and he has no new land attacks that I noticed at all. He's just as retarded, oversized, and annoying as he always has been. I know I will never be meleeing him ever. It's just not worth the frustration. Plesioth is one monster they should have never brought back, or really created in the first place. He's pineappleing awful.
Speaking of water, I can't say I missed underwater combat after playing P3rd.
Welcome to all reviews and complaints by people who can't play Monster Hunter. That's generally the complaints I've been hearing since way back in the day when I got Freedom 1. They're such old complaints at this point that I cannot even attempt to take them seriously, I just laugh.
Ever see one of those threads on GameFAQs that suggest ways to improve MH? First on the list is always lock on. Second is usually EXP. Third is usually magic. Second and third could be switched. It's hard to take any negative attitudes about Monster Hunter seriously when they always suggest to destroy the fundamental concepts behind the game. Not to say most of the positive attitudes are easy to take seriously....If there's one thing Monster Hunter attracts, it's pimentos. The Monster Hunter community is half the reason Monster Hunter isn't more popular here. They attack and insult everyone who wants to learn, it's disgusting.
At least Plessy doesn't have the invisible force 30 feet long hip check anymore,however I still think he is the biggest pansy monster and tail whips like there is no tomorrow.I should play the demo and try to range him and see how much easier it is.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Polantaris - 2013-02-22
Vontos Wrote:At least Plessy doesn't have the invisible force 30 feet long hip check anymore,however I still think he is the biggest pansy monster and tail whips like there is no tomorrow.I should play the demo and try to range him and see how much easier it is.
Yeah...they removed the hip check...and now instead all he has to attack on land is land swimming, tail whipping, and the water beam. Such a diverse array of abilities that they definitely didn't need to add anything to make him interesting!
Sarcasm aside, Plesioth is 100x easier to range, especially with Bow. Essentially, if you keep moving on land, you should never get hit. Ever. Too bad the Demo Bow is a Water Bow...
Speaking of, the weapons they chose in the demo annoy me. Water Bow, Water Hammer, Ice SnS with Negative Affinity, what the pineapple Capcom? It's like they deliberately wanted to piss off anyone who knew anything about the game prior to the demo.
Honestly, I think they should have never brought him back. Not just because of what they've done now, but in Frontier, they couldn't even think of anything interesting for his Hardcore version. Literally the only special thing about HC Plesioth in Frontier is that his land swim is direct-able. He's one of the easiest HC monsters available. If they couldn't think of anything to make an extreme version of Plesioth, why would they re-add him to the mainstream games? It makes no sense to me at all. To compare, many HC monster variants in Frontier are literally completely different monsters...and all Plesioth gets is an upgraded land swim. Definitely exploding with ideas for him.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-22
Polantaris Wrote:Yeah...they removed the hip check...and now instead all he has to attack on land is land swimming, tail whipping, and the water beam. Such a diverse array of abilities that they definitely didn't need to add anything to make him interesting!
Sarcasm aside, Plesioth is 100x easier to range, especially with Bow. Essentially, if you keep moving on land, you should never get hit. Ever. Too bad the Demo Bow is a Water Bow...
Speaking of, the weapons they chose in the demo annoy me. Water Bow, Water Hammer, Ice SnS with Negative Affinity, what the pineapple Capcom? It's like they deliberately wanted to piss off anyone who knew anything about the game prior to the demo.
Honestly, I think they should have never brought him back. Not just because of what they've done now, but in Frontier, they couldn't even think of anything interesting for his Hardcore version. Literally the only special thing about HC Plesioth in Frontier is that his land swim is direct-able. He's one of the easiest HC monsters available. If they couldn't think of anything to make an extreme version of Plesioth, why would they re-add him to the mainstream games? It makes no sense to me at all. To compare, many HC monster variants in Frontier are literally completely different monsters...and all Plesioth gets is an upgraded land swim. Definitely exploding with ideas for him.
plessy,imo is one of the worst monsters, it annoyed me even more when you couldn't go after him in the water because you either had to sonic bomb his ass out,fish him out, or just...freaking wait. Back then I was strict melee,so I avoided plessy like the plague when it came to quests,because it took SO long to kill him
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Secun - 2013-02-22
Plessy was really easy with the Lance, honestly.
I'm happy with the demo, though, even considering I don't have a Wii U and likely won't for quite some time, I'll be stuck soloing the game on my 3DS.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-22
Was really close to beating plessy with a light blowgun,I made a lot of silly mistakes. But you know plessy was being a plessy
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Polantaris - 2013-02-23
Secun Wrote:Plessy was really easy with the Lance, honestly.
It really doesn't have anything to do with him being easy or hard. He's not fun to fight at all. All of attacks are annoying, and quite frankly the amount of times he spams things like tail whips and the like is so high that it makes him one of the worst, if not the worst, monsters in the entire game. That's always been his problem, and the fact that they didn't do anything about that is the problem. They spent all this time and energy into redesigning a large majority of how monsters work with Tri, and then they throw it all out the window with Plesioth and do absolutely nothing to make him better but yet add him into the game anyway.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Piggy 2.0 - 2013-02-23
I downloaded the 3DS demo, but I'm probably gonna get a WiiU for the game anyway. Touching the bottom-screen to move the camera makes it really dirty, despite whether or not I've washed me hands.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-23
Polantaris Wrote:It really doesn't have anything to do with him being easy or hard. He's not fun to fight at all. All of attacks are annoying, and quite frankly the amount of times he spams things like tail whips and the like is so high that it makes him one of the worst, if not the worst, monsters in the entire game. That's always been his problem, and the fact that they didn't do anything about that is the problem. They spent all this time and energy into redesigning a large majority of how monsters work with Tri, and then they throw it all out the window with Plesioth and do absolutely nothing to make him better but yet add him into the game anyway.
I will like to add when I was fighting him in the wii-u demo,when he was ticked off all he did on land was the run up and immediately tail whip,it's like he knows it pisses you off with that range.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Lozmaster - 2013-02-23
Chicocl Wrote:They hate the lack of auto lock in monster hunter (Something I love for the realism of the game)
... Did you just claim a game about , literally, "monster hunting" is realistic in any way or form?
Besides that, look at how many people, even in this thread, from people who appear to be MH fans are claiming to have problems with camera controls. If the people who love monster hunter can't stand the controller setup, how are you expecting the people who aren't yet interested to react?
I would GREATLY appreciate it, among a few other things, being an option, so I can at least try and react to the monster, and feel like any mistakes I make are a result of my actions, and not the game screwing me on purpose. (That was the key difference between making a game infuriating and challenging, incase you missed it!).
For instance: Dark souls has a "lock on" system in combat. Did that make it an easy game? (Hint: No)
Quote: they hate the lack of an exp bar with improved skills so they can just fail a mission like 100 times till their skills just one hit KO the large monster.
It's like you don't understand why people aren't interested in/happy with the game. No, no-one wants to be able to ohko the monsters, anyone can easily see they're supposed to be a serious amount of work/strategy going in to beating them. More feedback on how you're doing in any given fight would be great though. Yeah, I got that the bosses start limping or whatever when they're severely damaged, but that didn't seem like enough to me. Would including an option to display a health bar for each (major?) monsters really be so terrible?
Quote:I'm really worried about the game industry right now, they can't really accept a game that rewards skills and effort, they just want another generic shooter, an easy auto lock game or a grinding exp game where losing is being rewarded.
Yes, people hate challenging games. That's why Dark/Demon Souls, Super Meat boy,Ninja Gaiden, Rhythm Heaven, Any Bullet Hell game, and plenty more, are universally reviled.
If the Wii version of Tri, and this demo are representative of the entire series, I totally understand why it isn't popular. Yeah, I can see why people would enjoy fighting what is essentially a game made up of tough boss fights, but the UI is missing some options that they could easily add that would make the game so much more palatable to get started with
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Scaeva - 2013-02-23
I played the 3DS demo a couple of times, and I have to say it's quite fun once I got the hang of things. Having them point out that there's a (quite good) manual would have been nice, as would a little more feedback than just limping every now and then, especially if the monster goes back to the usual attack pattern after a while. If I'm going to buy the game I'm probably going to get the Wii U version, because dual analog is amazing.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-23
I wonder if I should start a new topic with a list people's 3DS friend codes and Nintendo Network ID
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Lozmaster - 2013-02-23
Vontos Wrote:I wonder if I should start a new topic with a list people's 3DS friend codes and Nintendo Network ID
Why? We already have a thread with southperry 3DS ids stickied, and the Nintendo Network ids are all all in the first page of the wii u megathread (at least until we can get metaserpahim to add them to the main id thread). I don't think we really need another copy of them.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Vontos - 2013-02-23
Ahh whoops didn't even notice just a thought I came up with on the spot.Maybe an thread with a list of people who will be playing the game and some information about the game?
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Lozmaster - 2013-02-23
Vontos Wrote:Ahh whoops didn't even notice just a thought I came up with on the spot.Maybe an thread with a list of people who will be playing the game and some information about the game?
If you think it will be popular enough, you can just edit the thread title and copy the list of nintendo i.ds into the first post of the thread for anyone whose playing. You can edit the title too, once the game is out. Probably don't need 2 threads for the same game.
The Official Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate Topic - Secun - 2013-02-23
This is useful for those interested in changes between Tri and 3 Ultimate. Not entirely accurate but for more in-depth questions or discrepancies I can help if needed.