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I was talking to my mum yesterday about Tomadachi Life not allowing gay couples and Nintendo's disastrous response to the whole thing, and she said "So do you think you are going to boycott Nintendo?"
And i said "No chance, they announced the new pokemon games yesterday"
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Razmos Wrote:"So do you think you are going to boycott Nintendo?"
I don't see why anyone would choose /now/ to boycott nintendo.
They don't let you play anything other than a white character in animal crossing (unless you temporarily burn yourself by staying in the sun for hours...) and I can't remember anyone having a problem with fire emblem: awakenings lack of homosexual relationships, so...
That, and miis are virtually genderless anyway, as all hairstyles/faces/blahblahblah are accessible to both genders, so if you want miss marrying other miis that are quite clearly of the same gender (despite what the gender menu option says), you can always go for it.
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Lozmaster Wrote:I don't see why anyone would choose /now/ to boycott nintendo.
They don't let you play anything other than a white character in animal crossing (unless you temporarily burn yourself by staying in the sun for hours...) and I can't remember anyone having a problem with fire emblem: awakenings lack of homosexual relationships, so...
That, and miis are virtually genderless anyway, as all hairstyles/faces/blahblahblah are accessible to both genders, so if you want miss marrying other miis that are quite clearly of the same gender (despite what the gender menu option says), you can always go for it. I think boycotting is a stupid idea and would never work. But I think at least making Nintendo aware of how offensive it seemed will prevent them doing this in the future.
The difference between a game like Tomadachi and a game like Fire Emblem is that the character you create is supposed to represent you and your interests. For a gay person playing that game, they are not able to play as themselves, to play all aspects of the game they would have to masquerade as a straight person. In games like Fire Emblem, the characters are written in certain ways. They are preset, you don't play the game and project yourself on those characters like you do in a life-sim game.
In their disastrous response, they said that they didn't include it to avoid making a "social commentary", but not including the option to be gay IS making a social commentary . No matter how it was intended, it looks bad. Other life-sim games have had gay relationships for AGES, like Sims.
Like you said, you can dress up and pretend, but that doesn't change the fact it should have been included in the first place. and should people have to pretend? why can't they be themselves?
It's not really "offensive", just short sighted and very stupid of them to do something like this. I hope that this issue will help Nintendo to be more aware of stuff like this.
Anyway *cough*, this was kind of off-topic.
EDIT: Also, to put it another way: Imagine you are a straight person (or don't, if you are one), and imagine you really want to play this game. However, all the relationships in the game are gay relationships, there is no way for you to have a relationship with a character of the opposite gender. I'd imagine a lot of people would be angry if that was the case. So it's not too hard to see why the gay community is angry about this in a world which is becoming more equal all the time.
EDIT: but hey, see, complaining does work Nintendo deserves a lot of respect for learning from their mistake.
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Lozmaster Wrote:I can't remember anyone having a problem with fire emblem: awakenings lack of homosexual relationships, so...
I could have easily complained but what would it do? Get a bunch of people mad that don't want the feature and i'd still play the game regardless of the fact i know they wouldn't add it to the final product.
I mean, who WOULDN'T want Chrom x Gaius
e: pineapple that Chrom x My Male designed character 5eva
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Razmos Wrote:Damn, wasn't expecting footage so early.
Also, CoroCoro should be leaking within the next 2 days.
...god, I've kinda missed the whole pre-release build up. waiting for X and Y was pretty fun
There is already leaked game footage? :f6:
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Frostilyte Wrote:There is already leaked game footage? :f6: No 
There will be though, on Sunday. Someone will post it here when it gets released
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Razmos Wrote:No 
There will be though, on Sunday. Someone will post it here when it gets released 
Oh haha. That's what I thought I had read on serebii, so I was confused.
Much excitement for it!
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6 and a half hours until the Japanese show starts. First gameplay footage will be shown within an hour after that I think. I don't know how to watch the thing. If anyone can find it, please share it
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Razmos Wrote:6 and a half hours until the Japanese show starts. First gameplay footage will be shown within an hour after that I think. I don't know how to watch the thing. If anyone can find it, please share it 
Or you can just wait for serebii to update their front page
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Evolite Wrote:Or you can just wait for serebii to update their front page True but it might take a while for them to get a good quality video. Some people might want to see it when it happens. I dunno.
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Remoir Wrote:I could have easily complained but what would it do? Get a bunch of people mad that don't want the feature and i'd still play the game regardless of the fact i know they wouldn't add it to the final product.
I mean, who WOULDN'T want Chrom x Gaius 
e: pineapple that Chrom x My Male designed character 5eva Lucina.
Lucina wouldn't want Chrom x Gaius.
Which I suppose means the plot wouldn't want that either...
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WhatsThereToOoze Wrote:Lucina.
Lucina wouldn't want Chrom x Gaius.
Which I suppose means the plot wouldn't want that either...
ARE YOU AGAINST ADOPTION, HUH.
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KhainiWest Wrote:ARE YOU AGAINST ADOPTION, HUH.
Nintendo brand evil slaying weapons certainly are, only working for certain bloodlines
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Lozmaster Wrote:Nintendo brand evil slaying weapons certainly are, only working for certain bloodlines
...touché
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WhatsThereToOoze Wrote:Lucina.
Lucina wouldn't want Chrom x Gaius.
Which I suppose means the plot wouldn't want that either...
ok ok, Lucina now comes from an alternate universe.
She can be like Sketch from skins.
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Remoir Wrote:ok ok, Lucina now comes from an alternate universe.
She can be like Sketch from skins.
doesn't matter, in the end it was the result of the heterosexual couple what saved the multiverse.
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KhainiWest Wrote:...touché
Unless of course you're ike who was probably homosexual anyway, seeing as his RD endings ended up with him either leaving forever on his own, or with another guy he was close to if you maxed supports (Soren or Ranulf), with no choices where he spends his life with a woman in either game. Though the guy claiming to be his descendent in Awakening throws a little bit of a spanner in the idea, but maybe he was adopted?
ShinkuDragon Wrote:doesn't matter, in the end it was the result of the heterosexual couple what saved the multiverse.
It all seems a bit silly when they were travelling all over the multiverse anyway, they should have just grabbed some other people to help too.
I vote that all of fire emblems problems should now be solved by essentially pulling an ike from another timeline and letting him deal with it.
After killing a bajillion dragons during his games and slaying an actual god, he'd probably laugh at other lords like Eliwood and Chrom having to deal with a dragon as the final boss.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:doesn't matter, in the end it was the result of the heterosexual couple what saved the multiverse.
DONT RUIN MY OTP :'(
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Lozmaster Wrote:Unless of course you're ike who was probably homosexual anyway, seeing as his RD endings ended up with him either leaving forever on his own, or with another guy he was close to if you maxed supports (Soren or Ranulf), with no choices where he spends his life with a woman in either game. Though the guy claiming to be his descendent in Awakening throws a little bit of a spanner in the idea, but maybe he was adopted?
It all seems a bit silly when they were travelling all over the multiverse anyway, they should have just grabbed some other people to help too.
I vote that all of fire emblems problems should now be solved by essentially pulling an ike from another timeline and letting him deal with it.
After killing a bajillion dragons during his games and slaying an actual god, he'd probably laugh at other lords like Eliwood and Chrom having to deal with a dragon as the final boss.
those weren't dragon, they were dragon laguz, BIG DIFFERENCE. not even dheginsea had FE7 dragon stats, and don't make me bring my amelia here who solo'd floor 10 not-valni ruins.
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ShinkuDragon Wrote:those weren't dragon, they were dragon laguz, BIG DIFFERENCE. not even dheginsea had FE7 dragon stats, and don't make me bring my amelia here who solo'd floor 10 not-valni ruins.
Transformed Dheinsea stats:
HP:100 Str:50 Mag: 26 Skill 36: Spd:30 Luk:30 Def : 50 Res 46, Can negate enemies chances to attack and recovers 30hp(=to his luck) per turn with Mantle and has a skill that raises def/res by 5. Also has formshift like all royal laguz so he's constantly transformed.
FE7 Dragon normal mode stats:
HP: 120 str/mag:17 skill:25 spd:15 luck:24 def:20 res:30
WEapon: Flametounge Ignores defense, Str +10, Skl +10, Def +20, Res +10
Dheginsea would pomegranate all over the FE7 dragon in his sleep, even with flametounges bonuses.
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