"Ks'ing" is not kill STEALING... It's kill "Sharing".

Look.

It is ksing, if I for instance, attack the grim phantom watch you were in the middle of killng, I ''stole'' that kill from you.
Whether or not Nexon agrees, even if it is their game. It is Not ksing if I attack a grim phantom watch on the complete opposite side of the map that you are not even remotely touching, even if you will touch it. Arguing other wise would be biased. It is the players ''meta-game'', a rule that is unspokenly made on the community, that it is ''first come, first serve''. Your own logic fails you on this, and I have no doubt that Nexon would ban someone(if they were in the mood and had time), for killing monsters in the same map.

EDIT: To further add on this, I have seen someone being banned for actually complaining that someone is killing on the same map as them, as they often ''counter-harass'' them and ks them, thinking the ''map'' was theirs.Although this was a longgggggg time ago

On the terms of harrassment, someone told me ''Harrassment is the act on which someone commits an act upon another that makes them feel uncomfortable in any way or form''. With logic like this, anything can be harrassment, just like ''Pain Wavers'', the judge doesn't ALWAYS listen to those regardless of what their contents are.

The majority hates ksing, the majority hates having their maps taken. There is also common courtesy to take into consideration, among other things, Neo, you cannot argue against this. This is like me going into a church and whining about everything that has to do with their religion, bashing them with my own thought process no matter how right I think I am, it just doesn't work that way.

I also find it ironic that you're being bullied, in the same exact way you're defending such acts.

Lol ksing thread, real ksing is gone I miss 2x harps/newts

I don't care if I lose this one....

I wasn't expecting to win.

But I am right.

We're bitching about the unwritten rules of a fake existence.

In my real existence... I don't take other people girls....

So basically, in my fake existence.... Can I at least kill other people's mons?

NO?

So I have no outlet?

I can't break the rules in my fake life OR my real life?

well...

Guess I lose then.... I was born a rulebreaker....

(And I don't KS people out of courtesy, I'm just making the arguement that it's okay, because I think, philosophically, it IS okay, which would mean.... It is okay).

A. You Don't own the map yer training on.
B. That means you don't own it.
C. Who ever gave the idea that you did?

truely.... tell me where this idea of "I was was here first therefor I am the guardian of this fake real-estate"....

Where did that sentiment originate?

Wow guys all you pros really hate KSing....

I'm just saying.... I would have pomegranate my pants back in the day if a luigi hopped on my screen and started stomping goombas...

I guess yall kids.... have grown up in a different world.


But I think it's all a selfish thing on yalls part.

You're talking as if we're all younger than you, or have not grown up in the NES era. I'm 22 myself, but that doesn't prove a damn thing.

Because what you're saying is complete pomegranate. Even an old-school gamer (and this is pretty much most of us here) would know that you can't have a "random Luigi" jump in your game. They have to wait their turn until the first player is finished. Sound familiar?

EDIT: And did you seriously ask if you're not allowed to break rules in the real world as an outlet? Did you SERIOUSLY just ask that?

People get arrested for breaking rules as an outlet because other people get hurt, be it physically or emotionally.

Goddamn, how the hell are you 26 years old?

I suppose you actually do ignore the very existence of Nexon and their Terms of Service.

*claps*

You're the most brilliant person I've ever met.

-blah blah blah-

Okay, so you're being a bigot even after your points have been utterly destroyed and ignoring the fact that there's a universal set of morals for a reason?
Mkay.

philosophically

I don't care what you believe, be it the ducks are actually dogs underneath wearing masks or the sky is actually a cup; just please don't slander my science.

I don't care if I lose this one....

I wasn't expecting to win.

But I am right.

We're bitching about the unwritten rules of a fake existence.

In my real existence... I don't take other people girls....

So basically, in my fake existence.... Can I at least kill other people's mons?

NO?

So I have no outlet?

I can't break the rules in my fake life OR my real life?

well...

Guess I lose then.... I was born a rulebreaker....

(And I don't KS people out of courtesy, I'm just making the arguement that it's okay, because I think, philosophically, it IS okay, which would mean.... It is okay).

A. You Don't own the map yer training on.
B. That means you don't own it.
C. Who ever gave the idea that you did?

truely.... tell me where this idea of "I was was here first therefor I am the guardian of this fake real-estate"....

Where did that sentiment originate?

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Your excuse for your shitty attitude and behaviour is that THE REAL WORLD DOESN'T LET ME DO IT SO WHY CAN'T I DO IT ONLINE?

You may as well just come out and say what you really mean, "I can do and say whatever the pineapple I want no matter how idiotic or dickheaded it is because I am provided anonymity by the internet"

You're the bad guy obviously.
It's like asking if you get jailed in real life, who's the bad guy? You or the police officer?
Jesus christ are you serious?

And by the way that was good.

But is a bit of a stretch in this instance.

I don't care if I lose this one....

You have an outlet, it's called OFFLINE GAMING.
Also, what I don't like about your arguement is that you still have a concept of ''right'' and ''wrong''.
People who are on the lawful side assume that laws are moral, when they're simply made in the best interest of people for protection. But you're doing the same damn thing!
Plus your philosophy is a different matter, for a completely different thread.

Existentialism Crap

So let me get this straight. You have no outlets for your life problems so you decide to break rules of an online game and then make your own set of "rules" because you have an illusion of power at your hands in the form of KS-ing?

Hmm, now where was that ignore user function, I think I have one here I never want to read anything from again...

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Your excuse for your pomegranatety attitude and behaviour is that THE REAL WORLD DOESN'T LET ME DO IT SO WHY CAN'T I DO IT ONLINE?

You may as well just come out and say what you really mean, "I can do and say whatever the pineapple I want no matter how idiotic or plantainheaded it is because I am provided anonymity by the internet"

He seriously just asked if he's not allowed to break the rules in either world, meaning he's against being arrested for pomegranatety actions that HE feels are justified.

e_e

Seriously Neo, if you get arrested for something that is against the law, you don't do it. Why not do the same online, where KSing gets you BANNED?

EDIT: I spy a mod. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. Well, I had fun. :3

I would love to see what this guy would do in a court of law.

That would be a case I would more than enjoy to be on the jury for.

I would love to see what this guy would do in a court of law.

That would be a case I would more than enjoy to be on the jury for.

Why enjoy it when you can enjoy standing in the way of someone's free time by KS-ing them?

*insert post

Cactuar's just been watching for at least a couple minutes; I don't think he'll do anything yet.

He seriously just asked if he's not allowed to break the rules in either world, meaning he's against being arrested for pomegranatety actions that HE feels are justified.

e_e

Yeah but his example clearly stated that he's aware of the consequences his actions in real life would hold. If, using his example, he tried to steal someone's girlfriend, he would get curbstomped, which is why he doesn't do it (or because he can't, but that's another subject.) So, since he's aware of consequences in real life he has moved to a world where true consequences rarely exist: the internet. With the power of anonymity he can do all of the stupid pomegranate he wants to without ever getting curb stomped.

Well, almost. Sometimes you hear cases about a guy like him pissing off the wrong person and getting their face blown off.

So let me get this straight. You have no outlets for your life problems so you decide to break rules of an online game and then make your own set of "rules" because you have an illusion of power at your hands in the form of KS-ing?

Dizzy I'ma focus on you because you tickle me.

Uh... Well.... I know nexon has a "no ks'ing rule" in their TOS....

But if they actually enforced it everytime some "pro" like you decided that it happened...

90% of their playerbase would be banned.....

I told you all not to try to bring up TOS

and I just told ya why that made ALL OF YOU (who agreed with argument that the TOS was based off of) LOOK STUPID.

[plz lets not get into a discussion of what nexon consider's KS'ing/harrasment.... They set the bar LOW]

Yeah but his example clearly stated that he's aware of the consequences his actions in real life would hold. If, using his example, he tried to steal someone's girlfriend, he would get curbstomped, which is why he doesn't do it (or because he can't, but that's another subject.) So, since he's aware of consequences in real life he has moved to a world where true consequences rarely exist: the internet. With the power of anonymity he can do all of the stupid pomegranate he wants to without ever getting curb stomped.

Well, almost. Sometimes you hear cases about a guy like him pissing off the wrong person and getting their face blown off.

Yeah, I was gonna edit my post with something along those lines. It's still the most idiotic thing ever. :l

I don't care if I lose this one....

I wasn't expecting to win.

But I am right.

We're peaching about the unwritten rules of a fake existence.

In my real existence... I don't take other people girls....

So basically, in my fake existence.... Can I at least kill other people's mons?

NO?

So I have no outlet?

I can't break the rules in my fake life OR my real life?

well...

Guess I lose then.... I was born a rulebreaker....

(And I don't KS people out of courtesy, I'm just making the arguement that it's okay, because I think, philosophically, it IS okay, which would mean.... It is okay).

A. You Don't own the map yer training on.
B. That means you don't own it.
C. Who ever gave the idea that you did?

truely.... tell me where this idea of "I was was here first therefor I am the guardian of this fake real-estate"....

Where did that sentiment originate?

what you've come up with is "i'm able to do it online". which, you are. but it doesn't make you not an pimento.