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Adramelech Wrote:so you're suggesting someone shouldn't play a class just because another one is better at bossing then it is ?
No, I'm suggesting at Drks are mere HBmules at bosses, crap everywhere else and if anyone is going to make one, it isn't going to be because of damage or HB.
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SexPistols Wrote:I really don't think so because that would mean axe/maces > swords and that would make lots of heroes unhappy
The level or two of speed is not worth the extra 2 weapon attack on Axes and BWs. Swords still win.
And yes, they did remove the whole slash-stab system. It's gone. Dead. Poof'd like the Fairy Odd parents.
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Hazzy Wrote:The level or two of speed is not worth the extra 2 weapon attack on Axes and BWs. Swords still win.
And yes, they did remove the whole slash-stab system. It's gone. Dead. Poof'd like the Fairy Odd parents.
so I'd do slash damage using crusher with a PA?
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Adramelech Wrote:so I'd do slash damage using crusher with a PA?
No, other way around, Slash damage with Fury using a spear, or Stab Crusher damage with PA.
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Kalovale Wrote:No, other way around, Slash damage with Fury using a spear, or Stab Crusher damage with PA.
oops, yeah thats what I ment hehe.
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Well, when you think about it. Cygnus knights are going to get demoted, if they haven't already to Demo Characters for newbies, since they're easier to train and easier to max out in a small ammount of time. Really, if they were meant for anything else they'd get a level cap raise.
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Random_Overlord Wrote:Well, when you think about it. Cygnus knights are going to get demoted, if they haven't already to Demo Characters for newbies, since they're easier to train and easier to max out in a small ammount of time. Really, if they were meant for anything else they'd get a level cap raise.
More like Blessing Mules.
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Herborist Wrote:They changed the way mastery works so that there's only one and it covers both. I'm sure they sell their swords and buy something else.
and who is going to buy all those swords when it sucks??
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Kalovale Wrote:No, I'm suggesting at Drks are mere HBmules at bosses, crap everywhere else and if anyone is going to make one, it isn't going to be because of damage or HB.
So you are suggesting that drks should get equal dps to heroes WHILE have HB, the best defensive skill in game?
Then ppl will start making Drks and then heroes will QQ like you are now
Face it ppl like you will always complain no matter what happens, if you are happy about certain change others will start QQ again
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Alloy Wrote:You know? Combat orders is like the new Sharp eyes. Only it increases EVERYTHING from EVERYONE.
YOU ARE WRONG. Fiel did mention that combat order will be applicable to some skill. not ALL. As for what skill, we do not know. Have to wait for some time to see which skill combat order can increase the skill level.:f6:
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everyone should quit and make a dual blader plz, claw att 30% 1m ea PLOX
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SexPistols Wrote:So you are suggesting that drks should get equal dps to heroes WHILE have HB, the best defensive skill in game?
Then ppl will start making Drks and then heroes will QQ like you are now
Face it ppl like you will always complain no matter what happens, if you are happy about certain change others will start QQ again
No lol. Read between the lines. Our class is fun to play, that much is enough reason for anyone who wants a Drk to make one. Surely we both agree that damage isn't the appeal that draws in players, but struggling 150+ levels with that kind of damage to, what, S > hb? No.
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Kalovale Wrote:No lol. Read between the lines. Our class is fun to play, that much is enough reason for anyone who wants a Drk to make one. Surely we both agree that damage isn't the appeal that draws in players, but struggling 150+ levels with that kind of damage to, what, S > hb? No.
Struggling 150 levels?? seriously??
DragonKnight is THE best 3rd job since the start of time (that's why highest level players pre 4th job are DKs and hence why Fangbalde a Drk was the first level 200 of maple), Drks only starts to fall inferior to Heroes after level 120 while being about equal to Pallys in terms of DPS, and that's only because Pally and hero 3rd job is very bad...slashblast in 3rd job any1?
Now you can't call your class sucks and you struggle to level 150+ because heroes and pally owns you IN DPS ONLY in a distant future that didn't even hit the mother of all versions...that's just being plain ignorant
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SexPistols Wrote:Struggling 150 levels?? seriously??
DragonKnight is THE best 3rd job since the start of time (that's why highest level players pre 4th job are DKs and hence why Fangbalde a Drk was the first level 200 of maple), Drks only starts to fall inferior to Heroes after level 120 while being about equal to Pallys in terms of DPS, and that's only because Pally and hero 3rd job is very bad...slashblast in 3rd job any1?
Now you can't call your class sucks and you struggle to level 150+ because heroes and pally owns you IN DPS ONLY in a distant future that didn't even hit the mother of all versions...that's just being plain ignorant
I feel like I'm at basil right now.
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mamaloki Wrote:YOU ARE WRONG. Fiel did mention that combat order will be applicable to some skill. not ALL. As for what skill, we do not know. Have to wait for some time to see which skill combat order can increase the skill level.:f6:
Guess what skills are not affected?
1st and 2nd job.
What about the rest? Well, go check 3rd and 4th job tables, and you'll know what I mean. For Bowmen, for example, it won't only increase hurricane's arrows, but also Sharp eyes for the rest of the party,and practically everything else, too. Maple Warrior? 1 extra % on your stats and the whole party. Resurrect? Lowered cooldown. Think about it. Oh, and also, your own skills, too. Have that in mind.
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SexPistols Wrote:and who is going to buy all those swords when it sucks??
people who like how swords look?
I personaly am going to use swords even if axes were 30% stronger and the same speed.
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SexPistols Wrote:Struggling 150 levels?? seriously??
DragonKnight is THE best 3rd job since the start of time (that's why highest level players pre 4th job are DKs and hence why Fangbalde a Drk was the first level 200 of maple), Drks only starts to fall inferior to Heroes after level 120 while being about equal to Pallys in terms of DPS, and that's only because Pally and hero 3rd job is very bad...slashblast in 3rd job any1?
Now you can't call your class sucks and you struggle to level 150+ because heroes and pally owns you IN DPS ONLY in a distant future that didn't even hit the mother of all versions...that's just being plain ignorant
3rd job Brandish, non-charge-consuming Charge Blow say hi. DKs days have been history since 4th job was brought about. With 80:20 exp formula, we're even more dead with the lack of Himing Priests. Check your facts. I don't see why you would bring up the glory days that have been buried deep in the museum's layers of storage when the FACTS have been shoved in Drk's faces since the introduction of 4th job, which, up to now and the future, matters.
Nevermind, I apologize to everyone for the fuss, I'm done here. There's really no point.
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This thread seems to have diverged. :|
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The problem with being a support class is that MapleStory only rewards you for doing as much damage as possible. Why would you want to be a DrK if a Hero could do the same thing but better? It's not like Heroes have trouble getting accepted into boss runs. Having HB just means ONE HB user will be taken along IF the party needs it. HB slot filled? Too bad.
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Hazzy Wrote:This thread seems to have diverged. :| I know. Everywhere I go, I either see Dark Knights fighting or Fire/Poison Mages arguing.
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