What will be of the "Less" classes?

Ya know... no one's really brought up if the lack of defense is actually a significant factor now in V2 for a statless class, i'm curious on that part.

Being one of the boned Lukless mages, of course a free All AP reset would make me happy. I only did it to be decent after all; if nexon decides not to grant one im going to raise an evan instead.

But i'd be really dissapointed if Nexon didn't finally take the opportunity to introduce Full SP/ AP resets to the cash shop: There's way too many people that would sooner quit their character and start anew on account of a bad build. Sure some are stu- er, willing enough to buy tons of AP/SP resets over time to fix their beloved character: but i think nexon could make more money by reaching into more people's pockets with a total reset. 30-50$ range would be great.

The fact that the extraction revealed a non-cash total SP reset is disheartening though on that idea; but i'd love to see it, so many other F2Ps have that convenience, and Maple V.2 would be the perfect time to debut it, no one could complain if everyone had gotten one and everyone was starting on the same foot in a way.

There have been no AP resets for those who, unknowingly, pineappleed up their builds. They have 2 choices, plunge the godcock further up their ass, or resort to a clean redo. I'd offer those 2 options for those who, mistakenly, did the same thing. Why should Stat-less people who made the same mistake have some privileges over anyone else? You're suggesting because they cash out ten times more money? Right.

[jk]Yes, I do want to see them get screwed over just for lulz.[/jk]
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Dont distort what i said, just take while to read a text. i said Nexon made the $$$ out of those chars statless since is needed more $$$ to make such char what is profitable for them.

everyone know, right now in most cases a stat-less char is stronger than a regular build char. Nexon do know about these things too, and knowing that they made events, add new equips and all the possible things to extract $$$ of those who wanted to be stronger. that same goes for those who wanted/needed more HP with several AP reset sales over and over.

the game was built over this kind of things. i am not saying that ppl who used $$$ should have privileges, i am saying Nexon deliberately induced those kind of actions to take place. not today, not yesterday, but over the years. and now they are taking away with a simple move. that is why i talk about the AP reset, is not about $$$ and is not about power, is about the capacity to be able to play a stat-less char after the changes that will turn those chars really hard to play if you are in a certain lvl since you wont hit nothing and you wont be able to reset your build unless you spend more $$ again.

just saying AGAIN. the builds werent pineapleed, no one made any mistake, the game was always like that for years, and over the years the games was building over and over to be like that, i know that, you know that and Nexon obviously know that. so saying that statless is a MISTAKE build is that a big joke? lol lol?

is the same to say HP wash for ranged classes is a joke, or wash for 30k HP is a joke. or make a godly statless weapon is a joke, because last month someone in somewhere decided to change all the formulas of a game. ah cmon.

I win!

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I'm wondering now, from where the hell am I getting those +6 to useless stats?

the pirate is lvl 80 what's with the 40+ dex!

Dont distort what i said, just take while to read a text. i said Nexon made the $$$ out of those chars statless since is needed more $$$ to make such char what is profitable for them.

everyone know, right now in most cases a stat-less char is stronger than a regular build char. Nexon do know about these things too, and knowing that they made events, add new equips and all the possible things to extract $$$ of those who wanted to be stronger. that same goes for those who wanted/needed more HP with several AP reset sales over and over.

the game was built over this kind of things. i am not saying that ppl who used $$$ should have privileges, i am saying Nexon deliberately induced those kind of actions to take place. not today, not yesterday, but over the years. and now they are taking away with a simple move. that is why i talk about the AP reset, is not about $$$ and is not about power, is about the capacity to be able to play a stat-less char after the changes that will turn those chars really hard to play if you are in a certain lvl since you wont hit nothing and you wont be able to reset your build unless you spend more $$ again.

just saying AGAIN. the builds werent pineapleed, no one made any mistake, the game was always like that for years, and over the years the games was building over and over to be like that, i know that, you know that and Nexon obviously know that. so saying that statless is a MISTAKE build is that a big joke? lol lol?

is the same to say HP wash for ranged classes is a joke, or wash for 30k HP is a joke. or make a godly statless weapon is a joke, because last month someone in somewhere decided to change all the formulas of a game. ah cmon.

I don't see why you're arguing with me when I made it crystal clear that I enjoy seeing stat-less people cry in agony. Is there really a point? Anyway, if you insist,

I'd quote one event of the same nature: Elemental Wands/Staves. Look at those Bishops and tell them it wasn't a mistake that they did what everyone did AND what Nexon wanted them to. Whether it was a wilful choice or innocent mistake you made, it doesn't change the fact that you know, I know and Nexon knows 2 facts: Nexon wants money and Maplers want power, if you play into one of those hands, it's your own fault.

I pineappleed up my Dex, I proceeded to pineapple up my HP to be able to play this class at all, now they're going to reverse Berserk's mechanism and I don't make such a big deal at all about my pathetic damage thanks to the changes. Things change, people adapt. But yeah, everything has to be laid out perfectly for you, if anything changes against your favor, you should be given the privilege to adjust to it without much, if at all, effort. I mean, really?

Look here, I don't expect you to be able to look into a Crystal ball and predict that after 5 years, Maple will change in XYZ way, no. I just ask that we come to a compromise where it is possible for stat-less people to recover, but WITH a fair exchange for investing in the wrong stock, not a click-and-voila option.

If all you care about if the ability to train at all, it seems, now, that accuracy is only level-based, which explains the misses from pure-Dex classes, so rest assured.

the pirate is lvl 80 what's with the 40+ dex!

I was too lazy to add +1 DEX for each level until getting to level 120 with 120 DEX. So, I just decided to add all of it once and for all. Also helps me hit Typhoons earlier. : D

Man, I can't wait for these bag of surprises to be official, then wait half a year to make all of these new changes come to Global MapleStory. It'll be one huge drama-fest!

I guess that in the worst case scenario, for us people that learned L7's formula or that 1INT=1MATT, and that now are getting told "loljk" by Nexon... We still got at least 6 months to level up and put points into secondary stat. Thank Southperry to let us know beforehand.

My Bishop is 158 with 43~ bonus LUK from equips, without a single scroll for LUK. Some levels of LUK, MW20, LUK scrolling a Black Belt or a Maple Shield will make everything cool. Low stat classes will still own, and it's not impossible to go from stat-less to low-stat. It's just matter of if you can convert from stat-less to low-stat, or not.

But all people who are level 198 or so won't be able to recover just by leveling up, they'll need to waste around 80 bucks in AP resets. That's kind of a plantain move from Nexon for loyal players who just learned how the game works and worked with that. Personal stereotypes aren't relevant to the case, many good people just learned how the game worked, and worked with that. I feel no joy in having them screwed up.

That's why I think that if AP resets aren't given, Nexon should AT LEAST make a very cheap AP sale. Or during one month sell a universal AP reset.

Nexon should AT LEAST make a very cheap AP sale.

Why won't I be surprised that this surely will happen.

MW adds to your secondary stat, too. My Corsair gets 9 STR from MW, which means I can keep my base STR lower by 9.

+% is applied after equip bonuses.

if u rely MW to add ur secondary stat so you can equip u will be at disadvantage at major bosses since after they cast debuff you are effed

and please back up what you said with evidence, i.e. screens...

I hosnestly don't think % is applied after equip because that means % equips would stack themselves

if u rely MW to add ur secondary stat so you can equip u will be at disadvantage at major bosses since after they cast debuff you are effed

and please back up what you said with evidence, i.e. screens...

I hosnestly don't think % is applied after equip because that means % equips would stack themselves

How so? You're going to recast your buffs after dispel anyway.

And % equips add to a total +%, which is applied after gear. It wouldn't make any sense the other way around. +% Weapon Attack would add absolutely nothing.

if u rely MW to add ur secondary stat so you can equip u will be at disadvantage at major bosses since after they cast debuff you are effed

Actually that can be a life saver for mages, because our attacks stop working entirely until we use our rebuff macros - Which includes putting on MG again for some of us, and without putting that MG on ASAP after a dispel we'd die.

How so? You're going to recast your buffs after dispel anyway.

And % equips add to a total +%, which is applied after gear. It wouldn't make any sense the other way around. +% Weapon Attack would add absolutely nothing.

so you are saying that after ur first equip add 6% luk the next % equip will add 6% more including the bonuse from the previous 6%?

I.e. 6% of the 106% luk from the first equip

btw do you have prof about how % equips add after taking account for the equips