Normal/Rare/Epic/Unique Items

Potential scrolls and Enhancing are pretty fair. It's a test of luck since the chance of succession is lowered after every star is added. Keep in mind the boom rate is 100%.

If 90% (then 80%, 70%, 60%, 50%, etc) scrolls add bigger boosts than current 10%/30% scrolls, the best way to scroll a godly weapon will now become: maker a level 100 weapon (or maybe a reverse weapon if you're feeling fiesty) throw 60s at it until it has 0 slots. Then throw these scrolls on it until it's +6 or +7 stars. That should be a lot easier and give better stats than a weapon with several 30%s on it and on it and +3-4 stars, and it feels too risky to use more such scrolls on an initially well-scrolled weapon. Or at least that's how I feel about it now, but I guess in the future 10% and to some extent 30% scrolls will become obsolete.

Potential scrolls and Enhancing are pretty fair. It's a test of luck since the chance of succession is lowered after every star is added. Keep in mind the boom rate is 100%.

Which is exactly why it's a bad thing. Would you use a slot machine that took away your house after a few plays?

He already knows the boom rate is 100%. That's why he wants them to be less explosive.

I like how in Maplestory everything is luck based -_-

I preffer other upgrading systems like ragnarok for example

Really hard to get cards (0.01% chance, I got one BTW)
But the card works 100% and with very good bonuses like the one I got gives +700HP

Or wonderking, where Item upgrades things drop from monsters and you can use them to upgrade the weapon or armor by a certain number (1,2,3 or fail)

And I dont remember wich MMORPG used it, but you could upgrade your equipment with ores.

My point is, if maplestory wasnt that much about luck, it would be much better.

Thats why I dont like this new feature. Maple has been going downhill since Aran :l

I think that they will now release even more weapon coupons form cash shop(reverse weapons maybe) Thus making the loss of weapons "less tragic" while saying, "dont worry, you can get a reverse coupon from the CS"

I just like the magnyfier unless its not sold in pot shops

Maple has been going downhill since Aran :l

Maple has been going down since the first CS item that had an in game effect. pineapple you gach, mts, exclusives, TCG, 2x, VH, SoK, and all you others

Actually, 1 handed can be potentially better... Shields can get buffs that 2 handed users can't. In fact, shields become useful now.

This is the only one ive seen. So im pointing this one out, i never said there was nothing better, but the fact is this is an extremely strong weapon already....who knows when you get something better; the sword wasnt evenat full rank.

Try to give this a chance first, I say. You overlooked some stuff. Also, may I remind you you need to have all the slots used first?(just purposely putting 100%s on a reverse executioner and getting a few stars would make alot of other sword already put alot of effort into, look like trash.) and The chances to have a proper item are very slim(thats good?). It just ups the limits on greatly scrolled stuff, and gives a second chance at failscrolling(What if you unluckily have it break? I say that seems pretty easy by 5 stars+. White scrolls+ 50%s/10%s swiftly curved around that very nicely. This? all or nothing. Being as its so easy to break past 5 can prove fatal to oh so many good weapons.).

Answers in bold
to get 1 star on a weapon:90% success
2 stars: 72% success 28% break
3 stars: 50.4% success
4 stars: 30.24% success
5 stars: 15.12% success
6 stars 6.048% success
7 stars: 1.8144% success
8 stars: 0.36288% success
9 stars: 0.036288% success.
Say that again.

7 stars: 1.8144% success
8 stars: 0.36288% success
9 stars: 0.0036288% success.

Don't you mean 0.036288%?

0.36288*0.1 =/= 0.0036288

Answers in nold

Well, you clearly said both scrolling and enhancing have its advantages. In fact, I don't see the complaining part now.

Everyone stronger? Ok, great. What's bad about that? Variety on stuff making it have something more to consider apart from weapon attack? I like that. Choosing between safety scrolling, but lower results, and failscrolling, with risky results? Same thing happened with 30% and 70% scrolls, considering well scrolled stuff can easily break too (Making it a madman's will to do this on a timeless, for example).

Am I really the only one who sees this as interesting?

This is the only one ive seen. So im pointing this one out, i never said there was nothing better, but the fact is this is an extremely strong weapon already....who knows when you get something better; the sword wasnt evenat full rank.

And who knows how many swords were scrolled before those stats came up? It's not like it's hard to get new weapons/scrolls in Tespia... they come from NPCs.


I would be extremely surprised if anyone was getting +80 attack weapons on real servers. Like you say, look at the chance of success - 0.36% for the 8 star weapons... and individually they add random stats. Maybe that's the 1 in 1000 sword that gets godly - is that so different from a 0.1% droprate? As long as weapons are rare and hard to get (which they are, extremely so in MS) there are gonna be a wide range of stats on them, from clean to ridiculously godly.


These scrolls do not change existing items. So it's hard to see how this is "destroying" your items:f6: If you don't want to risk it, don't. I'm near level 140, and guess what none of my equips are chaos scrolled for attack. It's not stopping me from playing.

Don't you mean 0.036288%?

0.36288*0.1 =/= 0.0036288

Yeah, I added an extra zero on accident =/

Well, you clearly said both scrolling and enhancing have its advantages. In fact, I don't see the complaining part now.

Everyone stronger? Ok, great. What's bad about that? Variety on stuff making it have something more to consider apart from weapon attack? I like that. Choosing between safety scrolling, but lower results, and failscrolling, with risky results? Same thing happened with 30% and 70% scrolls, considering well scrolled stuff can easily break too (Making it a madman's will to do this on a timeless, for example).

Am I really the only one who sees this as interesting?

It's making things powerful up to the point it's not even good, it rewires the differences between classes. If this is good to happen, we definately need a higher damage cap; heros more or less will dominate paladins to the point it's not fair.

[color=#a000e0]And who knows how many swords were scrolled before those stats came up? It's not like it's hard to get new weapons/scrolls in Tespia... they come from NPCs.

Right. In tespia. Do you know if it will be out of tespia like that too?

I would be extremely surprised if anyone was getting +80 attack weapons on real servers. Like you say, look at the chance of success - 0.36% for the 8 star weapons... and individually they add random stats. Maybe that's the 1 in 1000 sword that gets godly - is that so different from a 0.1% droprate? As long as weapons are rare and hard to get (which they are, extremely so in MS) there are gonna be a wide range of stats on them, from clean to ridiculously godly.

do you lose anything from not getting a 0.1% chance of something dropping? Do you lose your item if you scroll with this and it fails?

This is basically Nexon's "High level" patch?! I quit back in Feb, apparently there was gonna be a big high level patch in March, guess not.

Eh? I'm going to get stronger with this so I don't really care if other people skyrocket much faster than me. I mean, why be hatin'?

These scrolls do not change existing items. So it's hard to see how this is "destroying" your items:f6: If you don't want to risk it, don't. I'm near level 140, and guess what none of my equips are chaos scrolled for attack. It's not stopping me from playing.

I think that's not entirely true. I mean, probably, already existing stuff will probably have to be used with a magnifying glass, and after that, if it meets the requirement, be able to use the potential scrolls.

[quote=Alloy] I mean, probably, already existing stuff will probably have to be used with a magnifying glass/QUOTE]

How can they force you to use scrolls on it. If you couldn't use un-magnifying glass'd equips, they'd better make them cost like 2k mesos each because every single player will need a few dozen of them before they can even train.



As far as I can tell, this adds 2 kinds of scrolls, pretty much separately

1) Item identification
You can put a scroll for "uniqueness" (let's call it) on your weapon. This puts it in "unidentified" state, which means it's Rare/Epic/Unique. Or maybe it breaks it.
You use the magnifying glass on it, it "identifies" it. This tells you which type of item it is, and gives a new section of bonus stats.
There's also that cash shop cube that resets the identification, so you can try again.

2) Star upgrades
You use the scroll. If it works, your item gains stats randomly and gains a star. If it fails, it breaks. These can be used on any equip. (literally any equip - it doesn't need to be rare, or identified, it doesn't need to be a Reverse weapon, no conditions at all.)

I don't see how either of these are required.

It's making things powerful up to the point it's not even good, it rewires the differences between classes. If this is good to happen, we definately need a higher damage cap; heros more or less will dominate paladins to the point it's not fair.

That has nothing to do with equipment. With the Adventurer balance patch, Pallies will be better and all will be well.

The classes that it *does* attempt to rewire, though, are the classes that have naturally lower weapon attack, namely NLs. I really don't think this will be a gamebreaking difference though.

The classes that it *does* attempt to rewire, though, are the classes that have naturally lower weapon attack.

Which is why i can't wait to see some godly pirate gear.

Which is why i can't wait to see some godly pirate gear.

Wouldn't it be nice if all your woes could be fixed by a little more WA? I've been saying it as long as I could: The one thing Buccaneers need is skill speed. Cut the cast time of Demo and Barrage to 2/3rds or 3/5ths and they'd be fixed.

Wouldn't it be nice if all your woes could be fixed by a little more WA? I've been saying it as long as I could: The one thing Buccaneers need is skill speed. Cut the cast time of Demo and Barrage to 2/3rds or 3/5ths and they'd be fixed.

I agree completely. Of course, a 150+ attack gun or knuckle would make both of us s'hit ourselves i'm sure.

I agree completely. Of course, a 150+ attack gun or knuckle would make both of us s'hit ourselves i'm sure.

Heh.... in before over 9,000 jokes for transformed Buccaneers.

Heh.... in before over 9,000 jokes for transformed Buccaneers.

...With a 150+ attack weapon...Bucc's power levels would sky rocket...and be...OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!

OT: Well, this seems pretty awesome, but I'm thinking they're gonna need to raise the damage cap as Bomber said. There are are people that can hit the cap already, and with the new scrolls, all that attack is gonna be wasted.