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ItzTaylor Wrote:I remember people thinking HT was going to be impossible. Then that moved to extremely hard. Then it came out in GMS and we beat it easily. 
I think people are just underestimating how much raw power comes from NL's with an apple up, holding down their Triple Throw button.
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FrozNlite Wrote:More like, ArchMages won't EVER see a PB battle unless they're Lv. 200 Echo Mules that don't die. Oh, and would only be taken roughly 6 months after the first PB death in the server.
In other words, don't expect to PB on an AM, ever.
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Wonderful, -50 speed. However, with a 140k KB that won't be hit enough to really STOP its mobility, a Blue-Snail-speed Pink Been is still an unstoppable force as it meanders through the map, albeit slowly. Here's to hoping the thing doesn't have wicked touch damage.
I believe touch damage is 23-24k...and unless you have Heroes using Panic every few shots, Pink Bean will just walk across the map. I've only topped 140k twice with Sacrifice, and I sure as hell won't be using it here.
MasPan Wrote:Red Nirg strategy applies here - without anyone kb'ing it, it'll be easy for Warriors to use Rush and actually have it work. Rush only fails when an enemy is doing a spell animation (sometimes), is in the KB animation (regardless of why), or is already against a wall. He shouldn't be able to move more than 2 feet without being rushed right back.
If another character is doing damage to it, Rush won't work. At all. Ask Isaac about me trying to pin Pap for us, I can't do it if he's using Hurricane.
Deviant Wrote:I think people are just underestimating how much raw power comes from NL's with an apple up, holding down their Triple Throw button. [COLOR="Red"]
I can count the DPS of a dead NL on one hand and have five fingers left over, apple or not. :f6:[/COLOR]
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Quote:I can count the DPS of a dead NL on one hand and have five fingers left over, apple or not.
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LightningZLaser Wrote:Well what im thinking of is that we can get 5 drks, 25 shadowers, all using apples, spamming boomerang step. It will be highly possible. But the problem is the need to get 180 apples
180 apples will be needed, no matter what. I suppose bringing either bishops or NL's will reduce this number, though (AM's too, I guess).
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Nothing Is impossible.. Even soloinig Pink Bean will be abled someday O.o
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ItzTaylor Wrote:I remember people thinking HT was going to be impossible. Then that moved to extremely hard. Then it came out in GMS and we beat it easily. 
You dont have 1 hour to killl horntail with most damages cut to half.
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byakugan Wrote:You dont have 1 hour to killl horntail with most damages cut to half.
Horntail seemed as impossible then as PB does now.
You're saying there's no way we can take off so much HP in an hour, but Horntail actually seemed harder than that before it came to gMS and everybody owned it.
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Cavalier Wrote:Horntail seemed as impossible then as PB does now.
You're saying there's no way we can take off so much HP in an hour, but Horntail actually seemed harder than that before it came to gMS and everybody owned it.
To be honest, yes. I think not even us will be able to take down Pink Bean unless Nexon (Korea or America or w.e) does something to make it easier, like adding 1 more hour to the fight time.
Seeing how trouble some it is to take down Pink Bean, I just wonder what the hell is nexon gonna pull out on the black magician fight
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byakugan Wrote:To be honest, yes. I think not even us will be able to take down Pink Bean unless Nexon (Korea or America or w.e) does something to make it easier, like adding 1 more hour to the fight time.
Actually I believe it is possible. Just not probable. Like, really not probable.
byakugan Wrote:Seeing how trouble some it is to take down Pink Bean, I just wonder what the hell is nexon gonna pull out on the black magician fight
*Black Magician laughs at Maplers*
*everyone dies*
"OMG WTH!!"
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byakugan Wrote:To be honest, yes. I think not even us will be able to take down Pink Bean unless Nexon (Korea or America or w.e) does something to make it easier, like adding 1 more hour to the fight time.
Seeing how trouble some it is to take down Pink Bean, I just wonder what the hell is nexon gonna pull out on the black magician fight
Isn't PB realated to Ariel somehow, the god of the Maple world? The Black Magician might be great, and all, but he isn't a god!
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byakugan Wrote:You dont have 1 hour to killl horntail with most damages cut to half.
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12459
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ItzTaylor Wrote:I remember people thinking HT was going to be impossible. Then that moved to extremely hard. Then it came out in GMS and we beat it easily. 
It was impossible before they changed it, and the same is true for pink bean. Not only because of the 1-hour time limit but also because of damage reflect (well, you could theoretically die over and over again, but that's kind of a huge waste of money).
Devil's Sunrise Wrote:http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12459
I can't see any other explanation of the kMS night lords doing three-digit damage on it. It does have massive defense, but people don't do three-digit damage on Hsalf.
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Devil's Sunrise Wrote:http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12459
How do we know that's not a glitch? MSEA hasn't managed to slap PB in the face with an attack yet >_>
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Cyanne Wrote:I can't see any other explanation of the kMS night lords doing three-digit damage on it. It does have massive defense, but people don't do three-digit damage on Hsalf.
It's been demonstrated that monster wdef is capped at 2000, at least in global, meaning Hsalf only has 1/4 of what he should.
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Blaine Wrote:I believe touch damage is 23-24k...and unless you have Heroes using Panic every few shots, Pink Bean will just walk across the map. I've only topped 140k twice with Sacrifice, and I sure as hell won't be using it here.
Pink Bean has 1700 attack. Compare that to HT's tail with 1750. And while I'm on the subject...
Ariel - 1650
Solomon (Left scholar) - 1440
Lex (Right Scholar) - 1480
Huigin (Left Hawk) - 1580
Munin (Right Hawk) - 1600
Note that on the final phase before PB, each statue gets a slight boost in attack power as well.
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Blaine Wrote:I believe touch damage is 23-24k...and unless you have Heroes using Panic every few shots, Pink Bean will just walk across the map. I've only topped 140k twice with Sacrifice, and I sure as hell won't be using it here.
If another character is doing damage to it, Rush won't work. At all. Ask Isaac about me trying to pin Pap for us, I can't do it if he's using Hurricane.
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I can count the DPS of a dead NL on one hand and have five fingers left over, apple or not. :f6:[/COLOR]
It has nothing to do with the mob taking damage, it's entirely related to KB. I can easily rush Nirg despite Bms/NLs attacking it. Why? Because they can't break his KB damage. The reason you can't pin Pap when Isaac attacks it is because his random crits can KB him (10k damage I believe). If he were doing, say, 3k damage max per shot, he would not be kb'ing, and thus you'd be able to rush.
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MasPan Wrote:It has nothing to do with the mob taking damage, it's entirely related to KB. I can easily rush Nirg despite Bms/NLs attacking it.
When I try to rush Nirg, if even one NL is attacking, it fails like 60% of the time. And I'm pretty sure his KB is somewhere in the range of 80000.
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byakugan Wrote:Seeing how trouble some it is to take down Pink Bean, I just wonder what the hell is nexon gonna pull out on the black magician fight
The black magician is a frail old man going around in circles in a wheelchair. He absorbed too much magic and tried to become a god... now he lives eternally... within himself.
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BombsAway Wrote:The black magician is a frail old man going around in circles in a wheelchair. He absorbed too much magic and tried to become a god... now he lives eternally... within himself.
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*gasp*
So that's why Steven knows so much about black holes! Get it?
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He's the one who made them!
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