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[COLOR="Red"]I'm fairly certain that Khaini will fail at this, but 7.65billion hp / 3600 seconds (60 minutes) leaves us needing 2,125,000 DPS MINIMUM. I myself am lucky for 60k DPS when I'm not zerking, (which I won't be because of Ariel), and 90-120k appled and unzerked. Toss in SE and Echo, and I'll be doing around 130-150k DPS on average by myself, minus seal time and when I just plain can't hit the statue of Ariel. Most of the surviving cast will be warriors, and I don't think we in Khaini at least can produce that much with just warriors.
Any thoughts on feasibly getting this high of DPS without dying, and keeping it constant? If I remember right, the hackers from this thread only had ten minutes left when they killed it...so... [/COLOR]
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2009-05-26, 12:11 PM
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well its not sure if we will have only 1 hour to kill her but i think its gonna be mainly nightlords doing the dps, while warriors job is to keep pink been in control. thought i do think you should not forget warriors can deal decent dps too and at pink been you will need every dps you can get.
that said mostly lvl 180+ attackers will be invited.
Also, and im not sure of this, maybe its offtopic but, why are shadowers so much left out on pink been in kms, in my server there is a lvl 189 shadower who can bigfoot almost as fast as my 194 hero. not using me but solely mellee skills. shadowers would be perfect for pink been cause with a bit of hp wash and hb they could also survive her hits. however shadowers with their high avoid and fake skill can avoid a lot of her attacks influencing their dps advantage at pink been a lot?
and about bringing as many dps chars as possible;
We still have to get the wheel of something allowing us to revive in the pink been map, that means we wont need as many bishops, which means we can (sorry for them) replace some of them with dps'ers.
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2009-05-26, 12:28 PM
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Nice, you linked to a forum, not a thread. This thread no?
I personally think the 1 hour time limit is ridiculous. Bishops are also candidates for PB surviving too btw.
EDIT: Did you figure in the possibility of PB being neutral resistant? That would make killing his ass almost twice as slow.
EDIT2: PB has a natural HP regen of 100k. I dunno what the time interval of this is, but it's safe to say it'll be regening about 10 mil HP at least throughout the fight.
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Well yea, i mean they still are essential for keeping the party alive and make sure they get bothered with darkness and other effects as least as possible, therefor they are ofcourse a role in dps too BUT its not like early hornedtail where tonns of bishops would come along just to res the dead ppl.
also i think there will be partys without bishops, not everybody needs one anymore :S nothing personal
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Only the final form of PB has neutral damage resistance, I believe, so it's basically the same thing as calculating with 9.xx bil HP, excluding mages.
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Cavalier Wrote:Only the final form of PB has neutral damage resistance, I believe, so it's basically the same thing as calculating with 9.xx bil HP, excluding mages.
Though "neutral" is anything that doesn't have an element attribute, no?
And PB resists fire, ice, holy, and poison I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong xD
And AMs... what can they do? They'd need 3800 HP (2375 base) to guarantee survival if the max damage PB can hit is 19k. (this is not including its touch damage)
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I have a vague impression that PB was only resistant to one element (other than neutral).
I don't know for sure, though.
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Huigin (Left Hawk) is Ice weak and Fire Resist
Munin (Right Hawk) is Ice Resist and Fire weak
Mini-bean is Fire and Ice weak
PB is strong to Holy, Ice, Fire and Neutral
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We have Apples.
Just bring me and my sexy DPS can r4pe it. /jokes
I see GMS having no problem beating it. Khaini being an exception. We fail.
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2009-05-26, 01:56 PM
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ItzTaylor Wrote:We have Apples. 
Just bring me and my sexy DPS can r4pe it. /jokes
I see GMS having no problem beating it. Khaini being an exception. We fail.
Did you even do calculations...? I'm having serious doubts about even GMS being able to top this thing if there's an hour time limit.
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If 8 NLs + 2 BMs can manage about 2m dps on the earlier stages, added to 15-20 warriors, then the warriors don't need to quite do full 2.1m on the final parts yeah? >_> I don't remember the exact HP breakdown.
That's just assumption from checking my Hermit's apple/se dps 80 levels from current, works out around 250k during constant attacking... I expect high level NLs have better gear.
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Good Luck finding a lot of NL/BM with a base 7k+ hp.(yeah I know there are some...but holy pomegranate thats like 200+ washes at lv 200  )
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It doesn't do 11k+ ranged damage at every stage, just the final boss itself :/
& it would only take me 110 washes to have 7k at the mid 19x... not that I'm likely to do that.
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Chameleonic Wrote:Good Luck finding a lot of NL/BM with a base 7k+ hp.(yeah I know there are some...but holy pomegranate thats like 200+ washes at lv 200 )
From level 180 to 190, i'm adding straight to HP. this should get me ~6500 base hp at that level, 6800 at 200 lol HP equips later, i'll be at the 7300ish that i need to actually attack and stay alive.
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Fiel Wrote:Huigin (Left Hawk) is Ice weak and Fire Resist
Munin (Right Hawk) is Ice Resist and Fire weak
Mini-bean is Fire and Ice weak
PB is strong to Holy, Ice, Fire and Neutral
So only the summons get cut in damage, not the AM him/herself. Meh, teams are going to have to take as much appled high dps classes with them, so AMs probably arent going to be there very often.
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Stereo Wrote:
& it would only take me 110 washes to have 7k at the mid 19x... not that I'm likely to do that.
lol What, spend $400 washing or getting to lv 19x?
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2009-05-26, 02:50 PM
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mmk. it's not 7k, it's more than that. last time i watched a video, i saw an 119XX hit, you need 7.5k hp base to survive that.
*thinks of windian / beran speed zruns*. zakum has what, 450m hp or so, and got killed in around 2 minutes? times that by 3.5ish (for 10 attackers in 3 parties instead of 30), you get 8mins to down 450m hp. that works out too ~55m hp for 10 ranged per minute, which is half the requiredoutput damage with only 1/3 of the total attackers. The problem won't be damage output in GMS, it will be surviving.
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Chameleonic Wrote:Good Luck finding a lot of NL/BM with a base 7k+ hp.(yeah I know there are some...but holy pomegranate thats like 200+ washes at lv 200 )
i think broa has 3 or 4 NL/BM/MM capable to handle PB with this HP, even the lvl 200s ranged has less than 6500HP.
broa wont kill PB anytime soon
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So if all 30 players are present and attacking the average damage input must be roughly 71K damage per second. However in a fight like this you will probably only have about 25 peopole attacking at the same time so... 85K damage per second average is required. With apples GMS will have no problem but you would need as many people as you can get.
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You don't need 12k HP to survive it. You need 8.1k, same as HT. However, you do need to keep PB's Genesis attack from hitting ranged attackers, which can only be accomplished by forcing him to face away for the entire duration of the battle. Pretty difficult, especially since he's mobile and does 23k touch damage. Essentially you'll need to have people KBing him left, then letting him walk right a bit - for the entire duration of the fight - while a shitstorm of things are flying across the screen and everyone is lagging.
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