McCain or Obama?

"biden"?

Anyway-
McCain rhymes with Cane. x]
Bush sent the Bin Laden family out of the nation while the rest of the country's air planes were grounded, on 9/11.
Bin laden > canes

Why did you start a thread about the presidential race when you don't even know who Joe Biden is?

And I'll be voting for Obama.

O CRAP!!!!
OBAMA AND BIDEN (rearranged)=
OSAMA BIN LADEN
PRAISE MY ANAGRAMMING SKILLS

... God damn it. There is no L or S in "Obama and Biden."

Anyway, not voting.

Here's a thought. McCain is 72.

That's getting pretty close to the point where most people start getting crippled by age related things

But since the world is living longer, wouldn't that mean that old perople get older slower? 0_o

and therefore age makes no difference to some old people...

Why did you start a thread about the presidential race when you don't even know who Joe Biden is?

And I'll be voting for Obama.

Because I can, and it's free.

But since the world is living longer, wouldn't that mean that old perople get older slower? 0_o

and therefore age makes no difference to some old people...

The world is living longer because of better diet, health, ect.
McCain was born in the 30s, long before most of those advancements existed. Only thing that will make him live longer is newer medicine. :]

Is it just me, or is the whole Obama Biden = Osama Bin Laden whatever thing completely annoying?

Is it just me, or is the whole Obama Biden = Osama Bin Laden whatever thing completely annoying?

Its annoying as hell but slandering someone's name is a common political tactic, amirite?

It really sucks that I'm one year off from voting in this election -___-. I would vote for Obama though since John McCain's policies are not very appealing to me.

I'm pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-universal health care, pro-pull out of Iraq, pro-fix this economy, and for once the democrats actually have a candiate that makes sense (unlike Kerry in '04, or even Gore in '00 to some extent). I don't buy into all the "McCain is just Bush all over again", I'm well aware of the differences.

I just think that having a very educated and well-spoken president is more important then a war hero. We need to be making peace now, not war. Obama really looks like a near-perfect president in my eyes, not to mention I hardly agree with anything McCain offers (short of homeland sequrity). So I might have to give up marksmenship (.22) until I'm 21, its worth it to have a house and a job.

Reasons not to vote for McCain: 1. Old age - might not last long?
2. Tax cuts to big (oil) companies.
3. Extended war in Iraq/Middle East.
4. Always jumps the gun and thinks war is the answer.
5. Voted for middle class tax raises.
Many etc.

Reasons to: 1. Has a stable voting record.
2. Wants to throw aliens out of the country.
3. ...?

I dunno, if you're a war mongreling high-class citizen, why not!?
Sometimes people confuse me, why WOULDN'T you be pro-middle class, pro-peace, pro-universal health care, and pro-gay marriage? All of that either helps or is -neutral- towards the middle class. That only applies to just about EVERYONE here.

1. Old age - might not last long?
Anyone high in society can get medical help if needed. Besides, his VP would be cool as the real president anyway.
2. Tax cuts to big (oil) companies.
Good, them having less money means they charge less.
3. Extended war in Iraq/Middle East.
No. Obama wanted it over March 08. He wants it over March 09. The amount of productivity in the past 5 months has pretty much DOUBLED the amount in the past 4-5 years.
4. Always jumps the gun and thinks war is the answer.
Like Iraq?
5. Voted for middle class tax raises.
Obama voted for ALL tax cuts. Middle > Middle + upper + lower.

Vote McCain! (and waits for more posts to respond to)

[COLOR="Teal"]Off topic a bit but related to the freedom of Americans such as gay marriage....

I find it funny that plantain Cheney and Bush are against gay marriage but yet plantain's daughter is a homosexual. Good going idiots on not allowing your children to be happy. Morons.[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Teal"]Off topic a bit but related to the freedom of Americans such as gay marriage....

I find it funny that plantain Cheney and Bush are against gay marriage but yet plantain's daughter is a homosexual. Good going idiots on not allowing your children to be happy. Morons.[/COLOR]

Since when are people in government supposed to directly change their view due to one person who's close to them? That's called bias.

I never said that. But if they have a gay child and accepted it and supported them, you would think that they would support gay marriage. That is all I am saying.

I never said that. But if they have a gay child and accepted it and supported them, you would think that they would support gay marriage. That is all I am saying.

If he did support it, even if he legitimately wanted it (for reasons other then his own children) he would get bashed by everybody for playing favorites and people would hate his administration more.

I understand what you are saying. It's just kind of messed up that you can't support gay marriage because your party doesn't want it or people with think you are biased or whatnot.

Considering a large amount of people in the '04 elections voted for Bush because of his stance on "moral issues" (aka, his gay bashing), it's not surprising Bush/Cheney didn't support gays despite the sexuality of Cheney's daughter.

Just my five cents. Personally, I don't care who wins the American election, because, while the winner will affect global economies in some way, I don't give a rat's ass about the economy, so it doesn't affect me down in New Zealand. Plus, I have New Zealand's own general election to consider.


John Key or Helen Clark anyone?

John Key or Helen Clark anyone?

Neither.
John and Helen are too freaking common of names.

I take it you'd vote Obama then?


Personally, I'm going for whoever reminds me the most of Optimus Prime.

ok you guys talking about socialism know nothing about obamas health care plan
he plans to make health care cheaper,not make it universal.
universal health care has two draw backs.
1. its socialism,down right and simple, and 2. huge tax increases.
what most people dont know is that McCains tax plan ends up giving us a deficit worse than Obamas plan,50% worse. Obama and McCain both want tax cuts, but Obama only wants it for people making under $250k, roughly 96% of the population, where as McCain wants 100% of the population given tax cuts,and, amongst the people, corporations will get tax cuts as well.
Thus leading to our economy even worse because our government wont have even more money.

1. Old age - might not last long?
Anyone high in society can get medical help if needed. Besides, his VP would be cool as the real president anyway.
2. Tax cuts to big (oil) companies.
Good, them having less money means they charge less.
3. Extended war in Iraq/Middle East.
No. Obama wanted it over March 08. He wants it over March 09. The amount of productivity in the past 5 months has pretty much DOUBLED the amount in the past 4-5 years.
4. Always jumps the gun and thinks war is the answer.
Like Iraq?
5. Voted for middle class tax raises.
Obama voted for ALL tax cuts. Middle > Middle + upper + lower.

Vote McCain! (and waits for more posts to respond to)

Sorry but you're a fool.
1. His VP choice is horrible,sorry,she just is. Republicans say Obama has no experience, yet their VP is a 2 year govenor of alaska
2. Supply and Demand, just because the high ranking officers of oil companies have more money in their pockets, doesnt mean our gas gets cheaper, thats a fucking no brainer
3. Obama never wanted to invade iraq to BEGIN with. Although I believe we should stay in Iraq until its stabalized, us staying there is costing us billions per month and has ruined our economy, Iraq needs to get on the ball.
4. No real answer for this one.
5. BOTH JOHN MCCAIN AND BARACK OBAMA WANT TO "RENEW" THE BUSH TAX CUTS, THE ONLY DIFFERENCES IS IN THE % OF THE BREAK AND THE FACT OBAMA'S PLAN ONLY REACHES PEOPLE WHO MAKE $250,000 A YEAR OR LESS, WHICH IS 96% OF THE POPULATION, WHERE AS MCCAIN WANTS IT FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING COMPANIES THAT HAVE SENT JOBS OVERSEAS!!

In my opinion taxes should be raised to help clean up Bushes mess. Anyways, I dont want a Pinappling president who has memory problems.

Although I cant Vote until next year, I want to convince my parents to vote obama, but them freaking vietnam freaks are McCain Fanboys.

OBAMA FOR THE WIN.