new KMST gear has percentage based ACC and AVOID

oh man, i hope they do this for HP and MP too. Of course, not a strait from +10 HP to +10% HP, but maybe on higher level equips add a % increase to health. That makes pirates, mages, and theives that go regular stat so much better. And for archers and warriors, more HP never hurt.

This is already done with the new earrings and that has a separate stat (hpR). If they changed +hp to be +%, that would greatly overpower pig headbands. Do not want.

Percent based watk in the future, anyone? :3

Again D= You're missing the point for warriors!

Are you able to wear a reverse taragon or dragon equip without having your equipment supporting your other equipment?


I'm also beginning to think they might change the defense formula. That would be swell.

Are you able to wear a reverse taragon or dragon equip without having your equipment supporting your other equipment?


I'm also beginning to think they might change the defense formula. That would be swell.

yes...and alot of people do. Since WARRIORS HAVE NO DEX REQ on their items. Save Night raven sword and Stonetooth sword, but they have their own benefits. I think you'd see alot more people converting to ST usage after this.

Lol nice Thin.

Stats were meant to be used in a certain way. I'm not sure why they even gave us the option to manually input them, really. But people found number exploits that would increase their damage output while allowing them to survive, instead of just putting the stats where they belong. While it's easy to argue this as strategy, sometimes strategies fail and backfire and you end up having to pay for it. Sometimes the safest path is the best one, which in this case was building your characters with the necessary stats to wear equipment, not just for survival.

They gave us an option for stats so we have customization over our characters. Want to have an end-game item that's level 110 instead of 120 because you're cheap? You can have lower secondary stats for that. However, warriors don't need dex for equips, except for a few exceptions (Crimson Arclaive, Night Raven's Wing, Stonetooth Sword). They just need it for acc. If you can get it from equips, why would you need to put points in dex? Having 250+ acc has little benefit.

This isn't an exploit, it's common sense.

Are you able to wear a reverse taragon or dragon equip without having your equipment supporting your other equipment?


I'm also beginning to think they might change the defense formula. That would be swell.

Hi, I have a Reverse Taragon and Reverse Nibbleheim. See my sig?

I was unaware that the equipment had no DEX requirement. My apologies.

This is already done with the new earrings and that has a separate stat (hpR). If they changed +hp to be +%, that would greatly overpower pig headbands. Do not want.

Yeah, I saw the earrings. But I realized instead of having all equip's hp increase based on %, just put it on ther high level equips, like reverse weapons.

Also, as for using equips to use other equips, it's possible.

Say you have a lvl 90 theif set, which means you need 130 dex to wear them. You have 120 base dex. With your current equips, you get a +11 dex bonus, bringing the total to 131. You want to replace your lvl 80 equips. Your top has 2 dex, and all the other equips you're replacing have one. When you try to equip another item, it takes away the bonus from that item only. So if you try to replace the top, your bonus goes down to 129 dex, and it tells you your stats are too low. All your other equips will be able to be replaced since your total without each of their bonuses equals 130. Now if you get an extra dex from one of your 90 equips, you'll be able to wear the top them.

Now I'm not 100% sure on this, but from what i've gathered this works.

Enough about warriors & acc. What about thieves & their avoid? 100% avoid?

Thinking it over it wouldn't be THAT overpowered. If obtaining 100% avoid needs you to scroll every equip for avoid, you could have 2 sets of equips, one for great avoid for for example ht/bf and another one with power for training xD


EDIT: Oh nvm a 100% avoid probably means +100% to your avoid T__T

Oh wow, now I can get over 1200 accuracy, and it does me absolutely no good! Meanwhile, the thieves get a huge boost in avoid and it continues to help them a ton.

I was unaware that the equipment had no DEX requirement. My apologies.

Ironically, this actually would turn warriors more into stat whores as everyone would now scroll helms/shoes/what not for dex rather than acc. Which is the more expensive of the two because it adds a tiny bit of dmg, and other popular classes love it.

I created a program which answers the following question:

"Given two hundred choices, at each choice is it better to add to DEX or better to add to ACC for a warrior?"

The table came out like this:

 Spoiler

#	ACC	DEX
1	0	1
2	0	2
3	0	3
4	0	4
5	0	5
6	0	6
7	0	7
8	0	8
9	0	9
10	0	10
11	0	11
12	0	12
13	0	13
14	0	14
15	0	15
16	0	16
17	0	17
18	0	18
19	0	19
20	0	20
21	0	21
22	0	22
23	0	23
24	0	24
25	0	25
26	0	26
27	0	27
28	0	28
29	0	29
30	0	30
31	0	31
32	0	32
33	0	33
34	0	34
35	0	35
36	0	36
37	0	37
38	0	38
39	0	39
40	0	40
41	0	41
42	0	42
43	0	43
44	0	44
45	0	45
46	0	46
47	0	47
48	0	48
49	0	49
50	0	50
51	0	51
52	0	52
53	0	53
54	0	54
55	0	55
56	0	56
57	0	57
58	0	58
59	0	59
60	0	60
61	0	61
62	0	62
63	0	63
64	0	64
65	0	65
66	0	66
67	0	67
68	0	68
69	0	69
70	0	70
71	0	71
72	0	72
73	0	73
74	0	74
75	0	75
76	0	76
77	0	77
78	0	78
79	0	79
80	0	80
81	0	81
82	0	82
83	0	83
84	0	84
85	0	85
86	0	86
87	0	87
88	0	88
89	0	89
90	0	90
91	0	91
92	0	92
93	0	93
94	0	94
95	0	95
96	0	96
97	0	97
98	0	98
99	0	99
100	0	100
101	1	100
102	1	101
103	2	101
104	2	102
105	3	102
106	3	103
107	4	103
108	4	104
109	5	104
110	5	105
111	6	105
112	6	106
113	7	106
114	7	107
115	8	107
116	8	108
117	9	108
118	9	109
119	10	109
120	10	110
121	11	110
122	11	111
123	12	111
124	12	112
125	13	112
126	13	113
127	14	113
128	14	114
129	15	114
130	15	115
131	16	115
132	16	116
133	17	116
134	17	117
135	18	117
136	18	118
137	19	118
138	19	119
139	20	119
140	20	120
141	21	120
142	21	121
143	22	121
144	22	122
145	23	122
146	23	123
147	24	123
148	24	124
149	25	124
150	25	125
151	26	125
152	26	126
153	27	126
154	27	127
155	28	127
156	28	128
157	29	128
158	29	129
159	30	129
160	30	130
161	31	130
162	31	131
163	32	131
164	32	132
165	33	132
166	33	133
167	34	133
168	34	134
169	35	134
170	35	135
171	36	135
172	36	136
173	37	136
174	37	137
175	38	137
176	38	138
177	39	138
178	39	139
179	40	139
180	40	140
181	41	140
182	41	141
183	42	141
184	42	142
185	43	142
186	43	143
187	44	143
188	44	144
189	45	144
190	45	145
191	46	145
192	46	146
193	47	146
194	47	147
195	48	147
196	48	148
197	49	148
198	49	149
199	50	149
200	50	150

Here's my source code if you want to scrutinize it:

Code:

[noparse]
DEXMULT = 80
ACCMULT = 1
Dex = 0
Acc = 0

#Use this formula so there are no floating point errors
def CalculateAcc(Dex, Acc):
    return (Dex * DEXMULT) * (100 + Acc * ACCMULT)

print("[table=head;autonum=1]ACC|DEX")
for eachDex in range(200):
    if CalculateAcc(Dex + 1, Acc) > CalculateAcc(Dex, Acc + 1):
        Dex += 1
    else:
        Acc += 1
    print("%d|%d" % (Acc, Dex))
print("[/table]")
[/noparse]

Well, time to quit MS for good then.

Well, time to quit MS for good then.

What, you're a dexless?

He's a warrior D=

So, scrolls remain unaffected right? It's just equipment base stats?

Main problem would be zhelm/scarlion I guess.

reply from spadow if that helps:

Spadow :
Let me give you an example:
Without ALL my equipment I have 266 accuracy and 353 avoid.
When I only equip my Ravana Helmet (11% accuracy/9% avoidability) then I will have 295 accuracy and 378 avoid.
Other stats of helmet: 18 STR / 20 DEX / 19 INT / 22 LUK / 58 HP / 79 MP / 101 W.DEF/ 104 M.DEF / 7 Speed / 4 Jump

He's a warrior D=

So, scrolls remain unaffected right? It's just equipment base stats?

Main problem would be zhelm/scarlion I guess.

Follow the logic:

1. Nexon changed ACC to be +%
2. Scrolls were not changed
3. Scrolls still give ACC, which is percentage based
Therefore, scrolls give +% ACC

Spadow's responses to a question about scrolls confuses me:

-"How about the scrolls?
Have they changed to percent too?"

-"Nope."

maybe its a bug like it was on gms with +4@#%dex

Of course on his end the scrolls have not changed. It still says +5 ACC in the description. However, in the data it says it gives +5 ACC. And in the data now, ACC means +%. So graphically it has not changed, but as far as the data it has changed.

Ah pineapple me then.

And then, this doesn't really kill dexless sins does it? More base luk, more luk from zhelms! What you'll probably see if people scrolling shoes for Acc now lol. Reversal of roles.