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New hacking epidemic
#21
Nexon will probably keep silent about this and act as if it isnt happening too...
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#22
Kalovale Wrote:Stopped reading there. What happened to common sense? Tongue

This is what happened more or less to BigSoda/Ken

Hacker (whisper): Hey, you have a nice claw in MTS i wanna buy, but with mesos. Can you CC to ch 15 fm 2 so we can discuss/trade? (Or whatever story you wanna use)
Ken: Sure
Ken: *CCs*
Ken: *DCs* --> hacked

It's not a lack of common sense >_> I'm sure if you've done any bit of merchanting, you've been whispered from buyers about items you have for sale, or whatever.
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#23
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:This is what happened more or less to BigSoda/Ken

Hacker (whisper): Hey, you have a nice claw in MTS i wanna buy, but with mesos. Can you CC to ch 15 fm 2 so we can discuss/trade? (Or whatever story you wanna use)
Ken: Sure
Ken: *CCs*
Ken: *DCs* --> hacked

It's not a lack of common sense >_> I'm sure if you've done any bit of merchanting, you've been whispered from buyers about items you have for sale, or whatever.
I think this is what has been called the remote hack. I saw a couple threads about it last night on the forums but idiot mods over at sw seem to like to delete them.
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#24
Hope4 Wrote:I think this is what has been called the remote hack. I saw a couple threads about it last night on the forums but idiot mods over at sw seem to like to delete them.

Technically it's a "switch" hack, where you swap one character's connection for another, named after the old DIKU command that let an admin do the same at will.

This lesson in gaming history brought to you by: Old Age. Rolleyes
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#25
Eosian Wrote:Technically it's a "switch" hack, where you swap one character's connection for another, named after the old DIKU command that let an admin do the same at will.

This lesson in gaming history brought to you by: Old Age. Rolleyes

Doesnt look like Nexon has learned from the lessons of History. Rolleyes
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#26
Chameleonic Wrote:Doesnt look like Nexon has learned from the lessons of History. Rolleyes

Considering they can't even grasp the lessons of "now" that we try to spoon feed them this is not a shock.
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#27
Eosian Wrote:Technically it's a "switch" hack, where you swap one character's connection for another, named after the old DIKU command that let an admin do the same at will.

This lesson in gaming history brought to you by: Old Age. Rolleyes

LOL Eos! Thanks for the lesson because I have no idea what this stuff is all about. All I know is that all this hacking, of any kind, is getting old fast......and continually pissing me off. Pfft!
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#28
Instead of getting you to go to them, can't they just hunt you down? o.o

Now I don't want to log in anymore... D:
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#29
MeteorSummoner Wrote:Instead of getting you to go to them, can't they just hunt you down? o.o

Now I don't want to log in anymore... D:

good thing about 3/4th of us can't even log in.
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#30
Worthyness Wrote:good thing about 3/4th of us can't even log in.

Still?

But but they've said twice now that it is fixed! Rolleyes
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#31
MeteorSummoner Wrote:Instead of getting you to go to them, can't they just hunt you down? o.o

Now I don't want to log in anymore... D:

It's more expedient to get you to come to them than to sit waiting for you to CC to the channel they want you on.
The CC is necessary because they hijack the transfer of your character from one channel server to another.
You could theoretically avoid this by always logging out to change channel, but as long as they know where to expect you to come out it may still be vulnerable.
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#32
Chameleonic Wrote:Nexon will probably keep silent about this and act as if it isnt happening too...

Nexon will also remind you that having your account hacked is a result of a keylogger, phishing, or social engineering.
But then again, a GM may have made accidentally posted account info to all these accounts.

I'm awaiting the next excuse with great anticipation.
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#33
Eosian Wrote:It's more expedient to get you to come to them than to sit waiting for you to CC to the channel they want you on.
The CC is necessary because they hijack the transfer of your character from one channel server to another.
You could theoretically avoid this by always logging out to change channel, but as long as they know where to expect you to come out it may still be vulnerable.
Do you need to be in the same map?
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#34
DaltonnnnnN whispered me to come FM, because he wanted to buy my top from MTS for mesos, and I thought why not, this isn't the first time someone has offered to my items in MTS for mesos, so there would be no harm. So I came to the FM, some guy famed me(don't think it matters but it might...) he told me to go to the MTS to get the top and I did, which instantly DC's me. I try to relog and I get the message that my account is still online, but the weird thing was, I could not logon to ANY of my other accounts as it gave me the same message, ever after a reboot on Maple. I can't get back on for 10 mins. I get back, and I've lost almost everything. The things the hacker left were:
8 EMPTY balanced furies
500k meso
1k NX
Red Sock
top/bot
zhelm

All the other untradeables were karma'd away.
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#35
This is what Item Locks are for.
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#36
In other words, suck Nexon's plantain or lose everything.
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#37
2147483647 Wrote:This is what Item Locks are for.

I'm quite sure that as a customer under a serious company, I should not be afraid of losing (hard) work because of the possibility that someone manage to hack my account because of a security-hole in their coding.
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#38
2147483647 Wrote:This is what Item Locks are for.

Item locks are nice, but besides being NX-expensive, they don't solve the whole problem:
- You can't lock your meso or your NX.
- You can't lock valuable non-equips such as scrolls, books, apples, pieces of time, jewels and crystals.
- If you're a merchant you're likely to be holding any number of valuable equips you actually want to sell.
- Most people don't have end-game equips. What they are wearing is very important and valuable (if only to them), but they will want to replace it at some point. So which lock to get, to avoid getting stuck with unsellable and unused equips, and also avoid having to buy another lock later?

Hacks and exploits will always exist, it's an eternal race between the white and black hats. But Nexon has to at least try to keep up. Exploits that were used a year ago should not work today. Not to mention ancient history as Eos mentioned.
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#39
How come I d/c when I switch my IP while changing channels but the hackers can do it? This is discrimination Sad
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#40
Here's the best solution to keep yourself from getting hacked

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml

visit that
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