[1.2.359] PvP
ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:i notice that monsters can now use multi hit skill. like in spadow's vid, the new big pig can use a punch skill that hit you like 8 times.

IIRC, Beowulfs in Lionheart Castle (the polar bear riding on a wolf) can do that but it does minimal damage.
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I just don't get why so many people just want the Cygnus to be evil period. Yeah, otherwise it follows a more stereotypical path, but there comes a point where you accept those since all plot frames were created centuries ago anyway. It is how something is presented that determines it's enjoyability. Originality is all well and good, but there's only so far you can go in terms of plot that hasn't been done (unless you pull something stupid like that upcoming "Cowboys VS. Aliens" movie). Besides, knowing the creators of this game, I'd much rather have consistency than something overly new (see Olivia).

As for my revised opinion of what I think happened; I believe that they attempted to reseal the Black Mage, but were given a false report on how to do it by some sort of spy or traitor; and instead of sealing him inside an object or location like he had been before, he wound up sealed inside Cygnus. Even then, the seal was not complete and her influence eventually led others into darkness. As mentioned before, the death animations of the new steroid mobs have a dark swirl in them before returning to their original mobs, so I'm more inclined to believe corruption is the theme here. What has my curiosity piqued is more that behind the gate to the future, there are two passages (of a possible many? perhaps akin to the maps with the doors just outside of Pap) that have been forcefully broken into. I could understand if the Black Wings + Mage forcefully broke into the past in order to undermine the present, but I can't think up circumstances that would motivate someone to break into/or out of the future.

@accuracy: Watch them change everything to make DEX and acc needed again and screw over warriors adapting to the BB standard now. At least if people can kill pap before then, they'd have the overkill acc cape to account for that.
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ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:i notice that monsters can now use multi hit skill. like in spadow's vid, the new big pig can use a punch skill that hit you like 8 times.

GMS had that first btw, in the alien event, some of the Visitor mobs in the pq could do triple hits.
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Are there other 2d based online games with a good pvp?
It just seems limited when compared to 3d games (wow, old rs, ect).
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Abysseon Wrote:Are there other 2d based online games with a good pvp?
It just seems limited when compared to 3d games (wow, old rs, ect).

MapleStory PVP kind of reminds me of Elsword PVP.

[video=youtube;0twuU_Nwqck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0twuU_Nwqck[/video]

I haven't gotten to try PVP on Wonderking, so I have no idea how it works there. I don't know of any other 2D games with PVP like that, though.
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They should...

1. Disable "snatching" attacks by making them always miss or be unable to "snatch". i.e. Chains of Hell, Snatch, Monster Magnet. This means that Chains of hell will only hit once or do nothing if the target isn't close enough for the remaining hits to connect.
2. Reduce the damage dealt by skills that hit multiple times. The more times the skill hits, the less damage it deals.
3. Mages should take the most damage. Thieves, Archers and Pirates should take about the same amount of damage. Warriors should take the least. Everyone has the same amount of HP.
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I'm slightly disappointed Nexon succumbed to the PvP pressure...no PvP was one of the things that drew me to Maple.
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Boooooo. More content recycling. Thought they were over that phase.

And is anyone else bugged the pineapple out by the android stuff? I want to know what it means. :c
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ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:agree.

this one the ugliest
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that's just a regular character with a darkened face. i think it's a pretty okay version considering its role is to portray the followers of cygnus (us) turning evil
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Random_Overlord Wrote:GMS had that first btw, in the alien event, some of the Visitor mobs in the pq could do triple hits.

And the bull spear monsters in LHC do triple hits as well.
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Teppi Wrote:that's just a regular character with a darkened face. i think it's a pretty okay version considering its role is to portray the followers of cygnus (us) turning evil

i know but the helm isn't wellmade at all. the shading, colouring, it look like some amateur that made it.
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About WK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbRa28qmjfQ

Both players are given the same amount of HP. Apart from that, I believe everything from PvE goes over to PvP. So no nerfed skills or nerfed power from your equipment which translates to constant "balancing" of skills that affect both PvE and PvP. Which could get annoying.

Noobs can fight higher level people too. So yeah.

Also, back then there were still some annoying balance issues. Like Saints (WK equivalent of Clerics?) being invincible and some other stuff. And this is with a game that was planned to have PvP.


I had fun playing it though.
Oh and yes, that's shadow partner.

On topic?:

I want Gigantic Jr. Boogie and a Mario outfit KMS.
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Bowmaster: Arrow bomb/bird to stun + attacks that dont knock you out of stun.
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do want pvp now Big Grin
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shouri Wrote:Bowmaster: Arrow bomb/bird to stun + attacks that dont knock you out of stun.

>20% chance to stun Arrow Bomb
>10% chance to stun Phoenix
>10% chance to stun Hawk

Sound reliable. Looks like PvP will be completely dominated by Thieves, since there's no way for Archers and Warriors to hit them if they Flash Jump over head, and attack with invincibility frames, and they'd never be able to catch them if they went on the run.
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JoeTang Wrote:>20% chance to stun Arrow Bomb
>10% chance to stun Phoenix
>10% chance to stun Hawk

Sound reliable. Looks like PvP will be completely dominated by Thieves, since there's no way for Archers and Warriors to hit them if they Flash Jump over head, and attack with invincibility frames, and they'd never be able to catch them if they went on the run.

Thieves don't get Flash Jump in PvP.

The only movement skills are Rush, Slash Storm, Teleport, Assaulter, and Corkscrew.
If I'm missing anything...
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Hm, I wonder how Puppet will work in PvP. Big Grin
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Yokuyin Wrote:Hm, I wonder how Puppet will work in PvP. Big Grin

Maybe it absorbs damage for a limited time?

Probably wishful thinking. Sad
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JoeTang Wrote:>20% chance to stun Arrow Bomb
>10% chance to stun Phoenix
>10% chance to stun Hawk

Sound reliable. Looks like PvP will be completely dominated by Thieves, since there's no way for Archers and Warriors to hit them if they Flash Jump over head, and attack with invincibility frames, and they'd never be able to catch them if they went on the run.

with only either phoenix or hawk out.... 28% chance (per combined attack arrowbomb+bird) to basically guarantee an enemy's death sounds rather nice.

I wonder if dragon pulse will find use here... lol at warriors not being able to touch BMs if BMs can just pulse them away.
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ITT PvP: lolwarriors
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