2011-09-24, 08:12 PM
Exidous Wrote:Cute. Did you miss that whole part where this is about regulating gambling, not loss from gambling? Yeah, you did. Save it for the threads where people are whining about getting hacked and suing Nexon. You might buy into their small claims court defense and I suppose I do too, but instead of going for the snark you could try reading next time.
...I think it's you who's missing the point as cubes are gambling, gachapon, scrolling, even pam song's are not.
Exidous Wrote:With that reasoning all Nexon would have to do is post a cube % result list and be all right with the world. That's obviously not the issue here. The existence of (mostly bad) outcomes in exchange for money is.
No what would make this a legitimate process, as I tried to explain to you is the fact you're spending 1.2k nx, which is credit that is a representation of money. If the cubes were dropped, or obtained in any other way besides cash shop and special events involving cash shop, then it can't anymore than gambling. Your example of gacha is actually the one bringing up this loss point, but that isn't right either. Gachapon isn't a gamble, it specifically says you put one in and get a randomly selected item. I don't recall gambling taxes on actual gachapon machines, but that's just me.
Exidous Wrote:The GRB isn't wholesale saying you can't peddle gambling to kids online, I wish they would - instead they're taking a more restrained view. But my argument is that the difference between cubes and scrolls is merely in degree, not nature. Both are gambles, and both are backed by real money when Nexon designs NX for in game purposes. Whether its a gamble with full information doesn't change the nature.
If they come down on Nexon over this, it'll probably just be cubes because of how low probability the rewards are. But when you've got things like the microwave event going on the argument that scrolls aren't gambling with real money wears awfully thin.
Just how bad a gamble is it okay to peddle to children? Just how bad a gamble is it okay to peddle at all when you aren't a casino or treated as such by law?
You aren't understanding that scrolls are obtainable outside of NX, period. They are common drops (or as common as rare items get) nexon's cubing service is considered gambling because you're paying directly out of pocket, excluding MTS, to upgrade your stats. The way they would fix this would be making cubes droppable. Well, I should say, avoid this "possible" now law's effect, it wouldn't fix the game. If you read the article it's about obtaining stats only through cash shop related items that involve chance. Scrolls in no way fall in this category.