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How many Black Knights (Black Wings Generals) are there really?
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Corazon Wrote:First off, if I'm right, Evan doesn't fight Francis nor Baroq. This means that he cannot be the canon killer of these two.

If we factor in that Mikhail is the captain of the Cygnus Knights, in a story where our first-person view Cygnus Knights don't exist, he'd be the only one capable of killing Eleanor, due to his unwavering loyalty to the Empress. This would make him the canon killer of Eleanor.

Then we have the fact that Aran fights Francis more than once. She's also encountered them both on multiple occasions, so thus she could be the canon killer in this case.

Hiver exists in all storylines, save for the Thief and Pirate legends (whom from a source I hear are to be named Boralis and Krytus - could be hugely wrong on this though); meaning one of those two could canonically kill Hiver. As for Akyrum, we'll assume that Valfar gets his revenge on Akyrum for that backhand several hundred years ago - this makes him the canon killer for Akyrum, even though he was built with Explorers in mind.

Remember, for this story to really work properly, we have to remove us Maplers from the picture, and put the NPCs/Heroes in charge. Since Valfar exists as an entity of the Black Legion entirely, he counts as a Maple-bred hero, albeit not a member of the five that took out the Black Mage (whom I will from now on refer to as Asmodius).Why Asmodius? Why not something like Shawn, or Russell? Or something that makes sense like Kerebos, the "Demon from the Pit"?


Story Notes:

-Aran is going to be accepted as canonically female until proven otherwise. She's responsible for retrieving Victoria Island's Seal Stone, and defeating Francis and Baroq. Why? All the artwork points to Aran being a male.
-Evan is the gullible fool responsible for letting the Black Wings get so far.[B]Yeah, basically. STUPID DRAGON.

-Valfar is canonically male, and was originally a member of the Black Knights. For all intents and purposes, Valfar gets his revenge on Akyrum, and kills him. Canonical win for Valfar.Actually, the Demon Slayer is explicitly canonically portrayed as neither. That's why KMS lets you create a male or a female DS, no matter what your gender is in real life (according to your KSSN), and there are 2 separate trailers for male and female.
-Mercedes is canonically female, and is Queen of the Elves (this is proven to be canon). She has a brief clash with General Orca, and Orca escapes the battle (though the game states it's a victory for Mercedes here, we'll assume canonically it's a draw). So, if someone runs up, beats you to within an inch of your life, and then you run away, you can brag to your friends that it's a draw?
-Nothing is known on the Pirate and Thief legends, save their names, which may or may not be legit - Boralis and Krytus. Just out of random interest, where did you hear those names, and which one would belong to which legend?
-Mikhail is the oldest and wisest member of the Cygnus Guard, second to Irena, with Eckhart being in the middle, and Oz being the youngest. Because he's been serving Cygnus for quite some time, even long before Nineheart, he can at least break loose of Eleanor's curse, and be able to kill her. Eckhart is actually the youngest, as I learned yesterday from Hawkeye, in the insight level 20 quest.
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-Hiver still exists due to the fact that he's a clever genius, as opposed to Francis' arrogance that he's a genius. So far, no one's been able to kill him.
-Shadow Warrior is most likely dead. Unknown at this point who has the potential to get canon credit for killing him, but he's probably dead. I do believe that he shows up in the Mercedes storyline, and is defeated (not sure if killed) by Mercedes. Hiver sends Mercedes into a trap in Ludibrium, but is never fought.
-Hiver and Shadow Warrior most likely serve under Goire, if not under Orca (I doubt Orca because she's more pathetic than Hiver, who's dodged notice for long enough and has lived - Orca had to flee her battle knowing she'd get killed if she stuck around).All canonical evidence in the Mercedes storyline points to Orca controlling Hiver and SW during that period of time, but it seems as if they are both part of a general goon squad that the black wings use to battle the heroes.

My comments in bold.
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How many Black Knights (Black Wings Generals) are there really? - by Raul - 2011-08-18, 08:32 PM

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