2008-10-19, 09:59 PM
You guys are missing the point. You seem to think I enjoy imbalance.
I'm not arguing on the side of imbalance. I am arguing on the side of maintaining the status quo. Ideally, a nerf is fundamentally a bad thing. I'm not saying these things aren't imbalanced, I'm saying that since they're in the official game now, they shouldn't be changed as drastically as some of you want. And if they were to be changed, they shouldn't be changed to appease the people who don't even have the skills. It's not like this game is PVP, another person having a skill doesn't have any effect on you, except as far as that person would use it to help you in a party.
All that could possibly be done for fairness's sake, in my opinion, would be to increase the cast time by a small degree*. You people asking for cutting the damage and range don't get the point of the attack, nor the point of AoE and advanced AoE. For whoever that was above who mentioned cutting damage, range, and cast time, that would either be unfairly strong or unfairly weak. You cut it too little, and now Magicians would be still too strong and thus, the nerf serves no point but to enrage them. You cut it too much and the advantage of 4th job over 3rd becomes too little. And don't even try to suggest that Nexon would be able to hit the sweet spot between the two, because no matter where it falls on the scale, people will be mad about it.
*As well as even the scales as far as Mage/Bishop is concerned, cost, cast time, and monster availability. However, notice that no Mage would complain about their cost being lowered or more monsters being available; nearly every single person who mains a Bishop would be thoroughly enraged to be placed back down into the same position they held in 3rd job. This relates back to the idea that nerfs are fundamentally bad, and frankly, have little to no place in a game such as this.
ps someone tried to challenge the DPS discussion: why? Why, really? We can all agree that they're stronger than everyone (and I personally say, rightfully so, given the situation we are comparing DPS in). The question which should be addressed is whether them being stronger than everyone hurts anyone and whether the imbalance being fixed via a nerf is worth enraging the Bishop player base.
I'm not arguing on the side of imbalance. I am arguing on the side of maintaining the status quo. Ideally, a nerf is fundamentally a bad thing. I'm not saying these things aren't imbalanced, I'm saying that since they're in the official game now, they shouldn't be changed as drastically as some of you want. And if they were to be changed, they shouldn't be changed to appease the people who don't even have the skills. It's not like this game is PVP, another person having a skill doesn't have any effect on you, except as far as that person would use it to help you in a party.
All that could possibly be done for fairness's sake, in my opinion, would be to increase the cast time by a small degree*. You people asking for cutting the damage and range don't get the point of the attack, nor the point of AoE and advanced AoE. For whoever that was above who mentioned cutting damage, range, and cast time, that would either be unfairly strong or unfairly weak. You cut it too little, and now Magicians would be still too strong and thus, the nerf serves no point but to enrage them. You cut it too much and the advantage of 4th job over 3rd becomes too little. And don't even try to suggest that Nexon would be able to hit the sweet spot between the two, because no matter where it falls on the scale, people will be mad about it.
*As well as even the scales as far as Mage/Bishop is concerned, cost, cast time, and monster availability. However, notice that no Mage would complain about their cost being lowered or more monsters being available; nearly every single person who mains a Bishop would be thoroughly enraged to be placed back down into the same position they held in 3rd job. This relates back to the idea that nerfs are fundamentally bad, and frankly, have little to no place in a game such as this.
ps someone tried to challenge the DPS discussion: why? Why, really? We can all agree that they're stronger than everyone (and I personally say, rightfully so, given the situation we are comparing DPS in). The question which should be addressed is whether them being stronger than everyone hurts anyone and whether the imbalance being fixed via a nerf is worth enraging the Bishop player base.