The "Bishop Ult vs. AM Ult" thread

Equal, not less than.

Who said anything about removing Genesis? Or Blizzard or Meteo, which you didn't mention for whatever reason?

The general idea here is that Genesis needs to be nerfed because Bishops have SO MANY AMAZING SUPPORT SKILLS. Clearly, many people are more worried about Bishops being powerful than about Mages, even if a Mage's power actually greatly surpasses the Bishop's.

Small adjustments don't cause mass migrations. People didn't all start playing CBs because Chakra was made semi-useful, or Snipers because the IA piercing modifier was increased, or Paladins because HH cooldown was shortened.

The things you mentioned were improvements, not nerfs. Small improvements to skills are not the same thing as massive game-mechanic shifting nerfs.

So? Nowhere did Nexon declare that Skele has to be THE endgame map for bishops. If they got something that enabled them to kill Himes much faster instead, I'd be all for it.

This would destroy the current system. For everyone still at Skele and Newts, how would you like to NEED a leeching little weakling of a Priest (or maybe a low level Bishop) in your party rather than simply being able to have a strong Bishop? Won't happen if you "balance" Genesis, because all the Bishops will go to Dreamy Ghosts and strive with their SR++ and Bahamut.

Or quit the game altogether.

Now. Single target for a Sader is using Power Strike, or 364% damage. In 4th job, that becomes 988% per hit with Brandish:
23,659 * 988/364 = 64,217

As for the Priest, Genesis as you say is 1.5x stronger than SR on a single target. Also, say with Gene you can hit an average of 10 monsters per cast.
50,404 * 1.5 * 10/6 = 126,010

Maybe not three times, but it says something.

Does hitting 10 at once occur that often that you should use it as the baseline for comparison? Anyway, the point that it's not 3x was all I was trying to make, and you've proven that well enough. Yeah, I could have done it too, but coming from me, the numbers wouldn't have meant a thing because of my obvious and heavy bias.

AND ANYWAY, the point I'm trying to make isn't that it's not unfair. It's that the status quo shouldn't change by so much, particularly when the entire game is made of similar imbalances. You yelling "it's unfair" over and over won't do a thing to slow me. Pulling out numbers that prove it's not fair won't do a thing. I'm not arguing that it's fair; I'm arguing that you shouldn't be so pissed off about the unfairness you seem to be so concerned with.