The "Bishop Ult vs. AM Ult" thread

But when a class supports better and trains faster than any other class, you know something's wrong.

Nightlords support better than any other class (in the departments they support; speed, jump, and meso drop), and they do single target DPS faster than any other class.

Is that wrong?

The fact is that there is no definite "support". Thieves have important support skills, Bishops have important support skills, Archers have an important support skill, and DKs have probably the most important support skill of them all. All Bishops support "best" is experience (any other party skills are workable or even surpassed with pots instead), but is that any surprise given their inherent exp gaining nature? And do the healers not deserve to get good experience? It's arguable, I admit, to what degree their exp needs to be "good", but there being a large pool of high level healers for bosses is an entirely good thing in my opinion.

Why would they leech when they can attack? If genesis was replaced with a non-overpowered mob skill, then bishops could get exp rates on par with other classes, but right now, they're the fastest trainers in the game.

Would they leech when they can attack? I don't know, ask the Priests who are skipping SR. I, in my Priestdom, killed dreamy ghosts probably faster than most anyone my level, but these folks are choosing to leech instead...?

I guess what I'm getting at here is that people are stupid. Point of the matter though is that the basic advancements in Genesis compared to SR are obvious and cutting any of them out removes the advanced nature of the attack. Higher range, more mob hit, harder hitting. Remove any one of those elements to "balance" it, and it doesn't work the way it should. What you're suggesting is similar to suggesting since NLs are so advantaged in single target, that Triple Throw shouldn't work with Shadow Partner.

Again, I point out that the entire game has imbalanced elements around. Bishops and Mages being strong doesn't hurt you, it only helps you (aside from the case of those who would killsteal, but they're going to do things to piss you off regardless of their class, regardless of their power). Would you yell "nerf!" at NLs for having such great party skills and uncanny single target DPS? At FP Mages for insane poison potential? At Crossbow Masters and Heroes for their massive single hits? For DKs being "non-support" but having the most important support skill for bossing? The whole pineappleing lot isn't balanced, why peach now? It's because you see Magicians as inferior and don't like them having a heavy advantage.