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2012 Possibly true?
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Corn Wrote:Socialism bothers me a bit. I really want to know how many people living in poverty are there because of uncontrollable circumstances or are there because they are lazy arses.

What about the people who don't even KNOW the potential ways to get out of the lower class? yet want to?

Schools don't teach it (aside economics which, for me, was only a summary that doesn't teach you how to truly do anything) , and if your parents never learned money strategies, because they grew up in a time when 1 full time job was enough to get by. How are most people going to learn?

Everyday on the TV, some people go on blabbing about how you can 'achieve financial freedom' using foreclosure properties or stocks or some other idea. Then the people who go to find out more at their 'free' info-conferences end up finding out they have to pay some extremely high price for information that can ACTUALLY be applied. Then going back and looking at your budget just to realize the 100$ or so you can barely manage to put in the bank a month would take you 3 years or more to actually afford.

I do know there is a lazy group among these poor. but the unfair part is, the middle class and low class are almost already experiencing that 'haves vs. have nots' khainiwest mentioned. Except there's much less disposable income space to take the hit.

Take a good look at section 8 housing for example: are you poor? goverments lifting you up, no worries! Are you TRYING to move up the financial ladder? Break past that specific yearly income and then the government is like 'lolnope, here's a higher tax bracket, there goes the part of the income you make over those poorer than you that could actually put into savings and make progress!'. Everyone's got the whole 'oh the people who earned it should keep it' part down.

Everyone always gets quiet when it comes to the questions of those who's right at that borderline where expenses leave you struggling to make savings. Or the ones who graduated but then later got laid off from their profession, and stuck working crappier jobs while school debts loom over their heads for life. being scoffed at for feeding their kids unhealthily while not realizing HOLY CRAP SODA IS CHEAPER THAN JUICE. Laughing at tv when the president talks about how many new jobs were made: while leaving out just how many of them are part-time and don't provide benefits. Or that some companies idea of 'full time' is 30 hours, and put in every effort to make sure no employee ever gets the opportunity to earn overtime. Or that one new store LITERALLY only provides one FULL-time job, and that's for the manager him or herself.

Then they get loud again when they get to the lazy people who are recieving support and somehow have more disposable income than harder working families. Enjoying cable television and PS3 while living in a crappy apartment.

I'm not saying 'oh lets have the goverment give tons of money away to the middle class too'. I'm just saying, there's a lot of people who just plain have the odds stacked against them in this economy. How much of an effort is -REALLY- being made to teach these people how to make the most of their tax breaks and opportunities without trying to PROFIT off of them? If one doesn't believe that they are; how readily accessible is the information to show these middle class their available options and strategies?

I was lucky enough to have a mom who's trying to look up these things so I can avoid being bogged down in student loan debt for life like her, to teach me to take this time when I'm under their roof to work and save up money to either invest in a market or figure out a business I can get going without a huge investment. I know for a fact though that not everyone will be as fortunate as I was and won't even have these things brought up even as a suggestion (let alone merciful parents that AREN'T trying to kick me out right away). I'm not saying the way you get treated, or the way anyone gets treated over stuff related to money is right. But i honestly don't blame the people you've dealt with for wanting to keep the help they're getting. Even if it keeps their heads from being slightly below water to getting shoulders above.
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2012 Possibly true? - by KhainiWest - 2011-06-16, 11:36 AM
2012 Possibly true? - by Derosis - 2011-06-16, 12:55 PM
2012 Possibly true? - by Corn - 2011-06-16, 03:40 PM
2012 Possibly true? - by Seanny - 2011-06-16, 06:43 PM
2012 Possibly true? - by Unauthorized Intruder - 2011-06-16, 11:22 PM

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