[1.2.381] The Wind

That is an opinion on what you said, not twisting your words. Just like you have the opinion that Dizzy just wants her class to be supah powerful.

1) I never said, nor do I believe, she wants NL's to be 'supah powerful'. Quotes?

2)

Now, MetaSeraphim, have you something actual to add to this thread or are you content to merely pick apart my words and try and lure me into a mess of word games and semantics? I respect that you're trying to stand up for ShanghaiDizzy but she seems perfectly capable of stating her own opinions just fine. If you have an opinion on this issue, please do state it. If your opinions are strictly relegated to having a problem with me, then feel completely free to PM me, as that is the proper place for such discussions.

3) Now, Dizzy, I realize why this conversation isn't going anywhere. You are unable to grasp that there are degrees. Something can be good without being great while still being better than bad. If there weren't degrees, we wouldn't have words like better or worse. Things would either be good, or bad, with no give or take between them.

Just because it still does damage doesn't mean it's good synergy on a lesser scale. It's not a hard concept to grasp!

Yes, because it does do damage, but on a lesser scale for certain characters, that does make it synergy, but on a lesser scale for certain characters. That doesn't make it bad synergy. Now, before you say that damage doesn't equal synergy, keep in mind the skill. If the entire and total purpose of the skill is to do damage, and it does damage, then it accomplishes it's purpose. If all skills play a part in synergy, and this skill, being a skill, is accomplishing it's purpose of doing damage, which is all it's supposed to do, then it plays a part in good synergy. It will do damage if you place it in a good location, that relies on you, and is not a problem with the skill. Just as puppet is useless to me if I throw it between me and a monster that throws a spear (like a kentaurus). I can't complain about poor synergy because I placed the puppet poorly, I used the skill poorly, and thus that's MY fault, not the skills. Same with Dark Flare. I didn't think that was a hard concept but apparently it is.

I'm not even going to bother replying to the rest of your post because it's all irrelevant. My whole position on this topic is built on the recognition that there is synergy, of varying degrees, within the NL class. Since you can't see the 'varying degrees' part, there is no purpose for me to continue further.

I'm done with this topic in this thread, think what you want, but NL's have synergy within their class, plenty of it, just not as much as some other classes. NL's also do great damage, not as much perhaps as some other classes, but my experience says they certainly pull their weight or more than their weight in a party all the time.