Why didn't 4th Job AoE's get a cooldown?

Yes, they're broken because they were released without making a bunch the monsters magic resistant, or whatever it would take for them to be worse than other training skills.

If it beats every other class at all the current training monsters, I think it counts as broken. If they add magic resistance/immunity to the game that might change. It's not like they're only the best at elemental weak monsters, they're better at neutral and even resistant ones



Why is it ok for Onyx Apples to be broken but not Ultimates? If Thieves all had high base attack (140-160 like most classes) instead of 100-120, they wouldn't gain an unfair advantage.

How about onyx apples and ultimates are both broken. How about we all just look at Afrobean's post and say everything is broken?

You're forgetting something, so what if they beat every class at training, if every other class beats them at bossing. The game is more balanced than people think. It's just that people keep looking at what other classes have; instead of the pros that their own class has.



And at the thread starter, you posted this in my "Surpassing wormified?" thread

Uhm, why do you even want to surpass someone like that? He either duped all his stuff together or mass gambled on gachapon (a.k.a. meso-buying from Nexon) to get all the mesos needed for it... I can't think of any reason you want to surpass such a person... Cheating or buying your way into succes in a game accomplishes nothing.

Besides that, on your own pserver you will always get way more powerfull (Factor 10x) then you will ever become on gMS/mSEA public, so the point of becoming the stongest Shadower in the world, will never be possible that way...ever...

Trust me, pixel-stat-elitism leads nowhere, it won't make you happy... Don't waste your time and money chasing something you'll never get to on the public servers. Next year Nexon releases another zOMGbbq item and you're back to the beginning and the meso buying process will start all over again...

Btw, being overpowered also gets boring in 15 minutes, same thing as pwning everyone with 4th job skills at the Hennesys Hunting Ground... Funny for 15 minutes... nothing more...

So, my advise, let it go... focus on fun, not stats...

Shouldn't we be focusing on fun instead of who beats who anyways?