Another UA Nightlord Question(s)

Not true. Monsters usually have very low knockback (Windraiders, before big bang, and maybe still, have ZERO knockback).
Meaning even if you miss them, they still get knocked back. Also my lucky 7 knocks back anything (other than some bosses) I throw it at. So why would one use vampire? Because if it DOES knock the enemy (or 3) back at all that disrupts them, its a second of you not getting attacked, which can be the difference between you getting knocked off of yer platform, and you staying on it.

Monsters with low Knockback requirements would be dead before you even need to knock them back to where you want them to be. That's how it works ever since BigBang. Vampire used for Knockback purposes serve little use when it's outright better to kill the monsters themselves. The only exceptions to this are LHC monsters.

From the lvls of 50 to 70, Vampire did me well. I had a mob skill as a sin at lvl 50... So... I know this math prolly does not work in my favor, but... Is hitting 3 monsters for 85% damage (or whatever this weak ass skill does, as was outlined quite nicely by Devil above), could that ever outdamage a lucky 7 on one monster? Well im pretty sure if lucky hit its low range and didnt crit, and then vampire hit is max ranged and crit'd with all of its hits, I think its damage can Sometimes beat lucky 7. (Though it will almost always lose if you use vamp on 1 mon, instead of 3 - I'm talking total damage output here).

Vampire doesn't outdamage Lucky 7 over time either, even versus 3 monsters. Especially not after BigBang and the UA version. Three factors contribute to this.

1. The lowered damage on UA's Vampire obviously.
2. Vampire is extremely slow.
3. Lucky 7 has its own damage formula which lets it output 10% to 20% more damage than normal.

At the very least it does speed up training at crows, especially when you learn how to "Jumpire" (I just coined that), and jump to KS other people by killing their platform with vampire. I am going to be trying to get a Screenshot of Neovicious proving that vampire does work with shadow partner, if I am wrong, I will admit it, but I played many hours as a cyg, and it always looked to me, like it was doing twice as many hits.

Learning to "jumpire" isn't necessary. If you can't figure out how to jump and attack in Maple by the time you're a 2nd job Assassin, that would be the bigger mystery. Why did you even bother needing a screenshot? I already posted one right here. And once again, KS-ing is bad.

-snip about some philosophical talk-

What you said had nothing to do with what I even mentioned aside from flat out ignoring advice. Whatever, your character.

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To the people hating on UA NLs: They are better than regular NLs if you HP wash a few times. Not because of Vampire. Vampire sucks. It's because of the 4 base dex.

The only difference is base LUK would cap at 999 instead of 997. The remainder points would go towards 23 DEX instead of 25 DEX. Not a big difference at all.