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Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - NeoVicious - 2011-03-17
I'm a lvl 120 cygnus, Pure dexless Nitewalker with 1 peridot so far (insert fruit here)
I have a 47 atk skanda (with it's +5 wep atk potential)
and then have about 17% luk I think (via a bunch of epic noob gear actually, and 3% on the statless items).
So assuming I can somehow find the reason to continue hunting peridots on a guy who doesn't even get any exp: This is my question
I'm gonna get 2 equipment sets as the UA (the level 50 & 70)
I believe the claw is dexless and 40atk (am I right?) clean, but the latter claw requires dex I think. And of course these sets when combined give a bonus.
So the question is, should I karma over my old gear and ditch the uniform...
Well thats not the question because I intend to potential every piece of whichever set allows me to be dexless.
THE QUESTION IS:
Unpotential'd, what would it take to allow a dexless sin to wear the complete lvl 70 set (including claw) and does the bonus from the set somehow factor into whether you can get enough dex for the claw?
Also - how many pieces of the set can I pop with 90% potential scrolls, before I lose the set bonus?
Uh... Thanks...:f6:
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - Xiger - 2011-03-17
http://maplestory.nexon.net/News/News.aspx?boardNo=401&contentNo=00BFE
As seen here, I'm pretty sure the equipment used are all statless.
These are the bonuses.
4 set bonus
HP: +100
MP: +100
Physical Defense: +50
Magic Defense: +50
5 set bonus
AllStat: +6
Weapon Attack: +5
Magic: +5
Physical Defense: +100
Magic Defense: +100
Speed: +20
So that means you can only mess with one of the equipment. Unless I'm mistaken here. o3o, if you still ant to have a set bonus.
And also, with the medal.
![[Image: cygnussuccessormedalv111.png]](http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/cygnussuccessormedalv111.png)
I'm pretty sure you can wield most equips...
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - CarrionCrow - 2011-03-17
Overall, hat, gloves, shoes and weapon make up set. The set bonus for 4 pieces is useless. Conclusion: No point in building around these equips. On a similar note, a UA Night Lord will loose precious HP because of how UA creation works. Is that worth it for useless gear, a medal that is good and a useless skill?
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - NeoVicious - 2011-03-17
Yes!
A. I can think of no other class that will benefit from 24 wep atk off blessing than a NL (Cuz we have the weakest weapons in the game, so adding weapon atk to us benefits us more than anyone else I can think of).
B. I use vampire a lil, it's like drain basically, for use in dojo (It saves me at Ani) etc. Also it's knockback can be used to effectively hoard enemies into a nice little group to be finished with an Avenger.
C. The Gear to me is not useless, because at the very least I can mess around with that statless lvl 60 claw.
D. Tell me if I'm wrong, but do we UA Nightlords get to have 4,4,4,luk?
Anyway You guys sound like you're right to me... You're basically saying go "Low Dex", which I will probably do.
But just academically...
Let's say I wanted to have a dexless UA sin That could wear the entire Van Leon set What would you need realistically?
Is that even possible if they have 4,4,4,luk?
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-03-17
A. You don't even need to make a UA to benefit from the 24 weapon attack blessing. The blessing's applied to every character on your account with the exception of the Cygnus itself. To add to this, claws may be the weakest in straight numbers, but they have the highest damage multiplier out of any weapon.
B. Vampire sucks for healing. If you want to heal, use drain or a potion. Knockback from Vampire is unreliable, too, since it does so little damage. Avenger has far better knockback capabilities as it's stronger and has more speed. Vampire also has huge cast delay.
C. The gear will get replaced in the long run. Not even sure why this is brought up.
D. 4 STR, 25 DEX, 4 INT, remainder in LUK. You cannot reset DEX under 25.
If you want to wear the Von Leon set, you can do the math yourself. Meet the 160 DEX requirement through means other than the set items and you'll be able to achieve it. You can be dexless, but dexless doesn't have a big enough advantage over low-dex to warrant the amount of extra cost you'd need to justify the power increase from wearing the Von Leon set without raising a single point in DEX.
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I want to point out that aside from the HP loss, you also lose out on the extra row of Use slots. This can make a big difference or a small difference depending on how much NX you wish to expend. If you're the type who doesn't use NX for Use slots, I suggest you don't make a UA Night Lord let alone a Night Lord to begin with. That's 4 less sets of stars you can carry and depending on your job tier, means less uptime for your Night Lord. Night Lords who run out of stars in a short time span need to uninstall.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - Locked - 2011-03-17
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:D. 4 STR, 25 DEX, 4 INT, remainder in LUK. You cannot reset DEX under 25.
![[Image: basilmarket_com-screen-198074-1.jpg]](http://static.basilmarket.com/screen/basilmarket_com-screen-198074-1.jpg)
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-03-17
Wow, what the heck? Now that's not right.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - FoolsLove - 2011-03-17
ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:Wow, what the heck? Now that's not right.
You start with 4 on all stats when creating a UA, I believe. You're automatically set to 2nd job so it's not required for you to have the 25 base for 1st.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - Punch - 2011-03-17
FoolsLove Wrote:You start with 4 on all stats when creating a UA, I believe. You're automatically set to 2nd job so it's not required for you to have the 25 base for 1st.
The reason why a Pirate/Thief is a good choice to make.. personally making a UA Bandit ;P
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - NeoVicious - 2011-03-17
Well guys I'm doing it.... I'm gonna make a dexless UA Sin, if for nothing else than originality I guess. I am 26, so if I so choose, I can spend 5 bucks on some more slots... Or maybe 100. this guy is gonna be my final main, unless somehow god forbid I'm still playing at age 30 and got this guy to lvl 200.
Anyway... That's prolly a lil off topic, so to try to legitimize this reply...
Exactly how much HP will I be losing out on? (making a UA sin)
And also...
How do you HP wash? I heard something about getting a very high INT bathrobe so you get more MP when you lvl up (ya put it on at 99.9%) and then use sp resets, but I don't get how you don't lose out on any atk power while doing so... And also, if INT is related to MP growth, is STR related to HP growth?
I mean, if you took any 2 un-hp washed sins at 120, and stripped them naked... Would they have the same HP? If not, then what made one guy get more?
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - NeoVicious - 2011-03-17
double post... sorry
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - CarrionCrow - 2011-03-18
Looks like something that needs to be reported to me. Will log a ticket when they close my current one about moonlight dew.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - Locked - 2011-03-18
CarrionCrow Wrote:Looks like something that needs to be reported to me. Will log a ticket when they close my current one about moonlight dew.
I'm slightly positive the 4 all stats is kind of intended.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - CarrionCrow - 2011-03-18
Locked Wrote:I'm slightly positive the 4 all stats is kind of intended.
Possible. But since they forgot to take the job change HP and inventory slots into consideration I'm doutful. It is not that much of a deal in the end I guess, since you'll be forced to add points into DEX anyway as you reach the cap on LUK.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - Locked - 2011-03-18
CarrionCrow Wrote:Possible. But since they forgot to take the job change HP and inventory slots into consideration I'm doutful. It is not that much of a deal in the end I guess, since you'll be forced to add points into DEX anyway as you reach the cap on LUK.
Yeah, you're literally only 2 DEX short of the normal thief. I thought the HP would be a lot worse though, guess it's decent.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - NeoVicious - 2011-03-18
Uh....
So....
At Lvl 200....
there is only a 2 dex difference between a no-dex and a reg-dex?
If that is the case...... Then.......
There is no reason to be no dex at all?
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - CarrionCrow - 2011-03-18
NeoVicious Wrote:Uh....
So....
At Lvl 200....
there is only a 2 dex difference between a no-dex and a reg-dex?
If that is the case...... Then.......
There is no reason to be no dex at all?
Err, no. There is a 2 LUK difference between a UA dexless Night Lord and a traditional dexless Night Lord at 200. Regular DEX implies that you followed the standard build adding DEX to base. You'd have 160 DEX at 200, regardless of being UA or not, if you do the regular DEX build.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - NeoVicious - 2011-03-18
Well that basically shuts me up....
I wanted so bad to be dexless.... But..... there is; at the moment, is no reason to do so, as I don't have a vip claw...
I should make a reverse while I can (before they kill maker) and just strap in for the long hard ride.
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - NeoVicious - 2011-03-26
Okay guys I went completely dexless and now I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do.
So far, I have calculated that with the four statless pieces of the brilliant set, I will end up with 25 dex, this will not allow me to equip the lvl 80 claw and get the full set bonus.
The claw requires 120 dex.
so I need to get up 95 dex, via capes, belts, eyewear, and rings. (I dont have no shoulderpads or face things yet)
Anyone got any ideas on how I should try to get 95 dex from accessories?
Another UA Nightlord Question(s) - Stereo - 2011-03-26
Should be able to get about 12 dex on an overall and 3 dex on a shoe by scrolling them normally...
Cape -> 10 dex is pretty easy
belt -> 5 dex
eyewear -> not worth the effort IMO
earrings -> 10 dex should be buyable
rings -> 16-20 dex
pendant -> 5 dex
medal -> 2 dex? I forget what exactly the UA special one has.
That's only about 67 dex though... Getting +116 dex without using godly armor is not gonna be easy. My NL only has +114 dex, and it's got a 22 dex helm + 26 dex from top+bottom.
Really I'd just buy Maple Claws or Visitor Claws and use those instead... instead of having to buy/scroll 9-10 godly equips, you just need one.