Another UA Nightlord Question(s)

Yeah well, I most def did max booster first, then put drain at like 6...

Uh at the above, I know for an undeniable fact that vampire does work with shadowpartner, on cygs.
Maybe echearts vampire or whatever don't work with shadow.

As far as me not taking advice, once you reminded me of shadow meso sucking, I took yer advice, quite smartly maxing booster first, because what.... am I gonna use drain on easy balrog? Am I gonna use it on ani (in that case probably yes), but for sheer convenience, just so I don't have to cast my macro again, I went booster first, because in any situation before lvl 120, lvl 10 drain & vampire will probably keep me alive.

And everyone who is hating on vampire, has no appreciation for the concept of "Knockback" in maplestory.
Vampires crazy erratic way it hits, and perfect auto-targeting (like a spell) allow it to horde enemies into what I like to call a "manageable position" which usually means they are clumped together at the corner of their platform, and the thing is, you do not have to wait for vampire to finish before launching another skill, meaning, while the enemies are still suffering the knockback of vampire, you're sending a L7 / avenger their way to finish em off.

I did not make a Dexless UA sin to enjoy the greatness of vampire, I did it, because if you can add wep atk to a sin, it benefits them more than most classes, and UAs happen to get a lot of free weapon atk from their equips and medal etc.

Well I guess I did it for fun... And it is fun.

But to say I didn't take yer advice would be wrong. And to say that vampire is "bad" is subjective.

To say I get a lot of "wtps" from lvl 75s who see me KSing them with vampire, before lvl 70 would be objective.

Vampire -used- to be a very good skill, before Big Bang.

Criticals were additive instead of multiplicative:
=> Before BB => 4x 40% base dmg => 4x 140% base dmg (critical) = 250% increase.
=> Before BB => 4x 40% base dmg => 4x 280% base dmg (critical) = 600% increase with SE active (Vampire with SE was a boss slayer).
=> After BB => 4x 60% base dmg => 4x 80% ~ 4x 110% base dmg (critical) = 33% ~ 83% increase.
==> DPS wise, Vampire is seriously weakened.

Venom used to stack 3 times:
=> Venom did like 20k ~ 40k per second DoT before BB, using Vampire's 4x hit per monster, it almost always activated and Vampire's damage got boosted a LOT.
=> Venom now does like 5k ~ 10k per second DoT after BB (unless you have a shietload of cubed gear...). Vampire's damage get's hardly boosted with Venom while training.

Besides that:
- Avenger can now be thrown with a monster 1 pixel in front of you, there is no more claw punch, Vampire -used- to be unique to this (no punch) for a claw player, now it also lost that edge.
- The heal ratio of Eckart's Vampire is only 2% of the damage, NW's Vampire heals 5% of the damage done, that's a 250% nerf...
- Eckart's Vampire only hits 3 monsters max, NW's Vampire hits 6, nerfing both DPS -and- HEALING usefulness.

Oh btw, NW's Vampire doesn't work with Shadow Partner, it only hits 4 times per monster, with or without SP.

Now when you compare it to Soul Driver for Ultimate Adventurers, it does like 25% Vampire's DPS, and -also- hits more monsters.

So yeah, sadly Vampire sux, especially when you compare it to other UA skills, but also when you compare it with Avenger, which does -way- more DPS, since it works with SP, and SP also gets boosted in 4th job with that star mastery skill. Vampire falls behind a lot here. While Soul Driver for UA Warriors even gets (on average) 1.5x stronger in 4th job...

But if you like Vampire, just keep using it, but when you have max Drain, Avenger, SP, and SP enhance, in 4th job, you'll see why the UA skills are unfair balanced across the classes.

It's just Nexon at work here, they just don't understand what they're doing.