2011-03-11, 08:06 PM
After rereading your post I just had to repost lol.
So who decides how much evidence is enough to prove an assertion? Don't come and tell me elestaves were only meant for A/M's for the rest of maple eternity. The existence of an item is different from discussing the intent of an item. The existence of an item can be proven, its just there (unless you want to get into metaphysics). Same goes for data extractions, if I wanted to I could extract the data for myself and check if you're lying about your extractions or not. Just show me where the creators of Elestaves said they meant the elestaves for only A/M's for the rest of maple eternity lol.
The .0000001% possibility was not referring to being right/wrong. It was referring to whether or not the creator of the elestaves thought future classes may come out in the future that may have use of Elestaves which is pretty much more than .0000001%. What kind of creator would be that close minded.
By all means say you know and that you are a mind reader if you are. I'm not gonna deny you that, but definitely call you insane.
Oh trust me, the reason why I'm able to argue about this to this extent is because I'm a philosophy major. If you really knew what philosophical arguments were you wouldn't be saying my argument is absurd. Ever heard of metaphysics?
My point is simply that BaM's/Evans should not be flamed for using Elestaves. I mean seriously, we all family yo. xD
Fiel Wrote:Which implies a logical fallacy. Argument from Ignorance is not an argument. I can raise the burden of proof so astronomically high that no one would be able to satisfy them. Even the court definition for a felony conviction - "Beyond a reasonable doubt" - falls completely short of your 0.000001% possibility. Who could possibly be that correct?
So who decides how much evidence is enough to prove an assertion? Don't come and tell me elestaves were only meant for A/M's for the rest of maple eternity. The existence of an item is different from discussing the intent of an item. The existence of an item can be proven, its just there (unless you want to get into metaphysics). Same goes for data extractions, if I wanted to I could extract the data for myself and check if you're lying about your extractions or not. Just show me where the creators of Elestaves said they meant the elestaves for only A/M's for the rest of maple eternity lol.
The .0000001% possibility was not referring to being right/wrong. It was referring to whether or not the creator of the elestaves thought future classes may come out in the future that may have use of Elestaves which is pretty much more than .0000001%. What kind of creator would be that close minded.
Quote:I could just as well say that how can you know that we can't know? Are you reading my mind? How do you know I'm not a mindreader? How can you know that we can't know that there was a .000001% possibility of the class? Why are you denying my knowledge over theirs? And why should I believe you? Why are you on this site anyway? Do you really trust my extractions? How can you know my extractions are reliable or unreliable? How can you know anything with absolute certainty? You can't.
By all means say you know and that you are a mind reader if you are. I'm not gonna deny you that, but definitely call you insane.
Quote:Sounds like you really need to learn about basic argumentation and philosophical arguments. Your argument is absurd.
Oh trust me, the reason why I'm able to argue about this to this extent is because I'm a philosophy major. If you really knew what philosophical arguments were you wouldn't be saying my argument is absurd. Ever heard of metaphysics?
My point is simply that BaM's/Evans should not be flamed for using Elestaves. I mean seriously, we all family yo. xD