Elemental Weapons Bonuses Return

No, the burden of proof is on you because all factual evidence indicates this as a basic fact and you are the one positing a theory that deviates from this fact with no substantiating claims. I already pointed out the years of separation and different development teams involved. For your theory to hold water you would have to prove that there was both a connection between the teams and a grand design they both shared years in advance.

Your claim regarding bishops is also ludicrous, they would've had to changed core functionality of how the entire equipment system works to make wands/staves that a specific subset of wand/stave wielders couldn't use, so they added penalties as well as bonuses to ensure that the right people used the right weapon. They could've completely left off the entire eleDefault concept if they wanted the weapons to be generally available to all wand/stave users and only augment specific people, but they wanted to restrict who would use and benefit from them without having to recode the entire equipment system so they added a penalty, since the penalty could easily reuse the same logic that the bonus itself used.

Also get your facts straight, you brought this subject up:


In reply to an assertion by Chilly, not me.
I only replied because your answer was drivel requiring exteme supposition of foreknowledge and/or prescience.
Your insistence that new classes were inevitable and therefore were already accounted for is also absurd given that many games have never expanded by adding new classes and at the time these were created there was no implication that Maple would be. Without having direct knowledge that new classes would exist and what form those would take there was no way four years ago that JMS could've prepared these weapons for every possible future scenario.

Your entire stance is coming down to stamping your feet screaming NO NO NO ME ME ME with no supporting evidence and no credible statements.

You continue to insist that I said there was a connection between JMS and KMS teams. I have never said this, instead I likened it to inventions/creations. I am not making a claim that they intended it for BaM's. I am claiming that we can never know the true intentions of elestave creators unless you can read their mind. Sure they were intended for A/M's, but A/M's ONLY? That is what I am getting at. You are supporting Chilly in his assertion that Elestaves were intended solely for A/M's. Any smart creator(JMS-Elestaves) of ANYTHING will open up the possibilities for their creation to either be built upon by another creator(KMS-BaM). If a new elemental mage class was created the elestaves would be intended now for that new elemental class.

On the other hand, you are the one insisting that A/M's were the only classes intended for elestaves for all of maple eternity. You don't know whether or not the creators were aware that there might even be a .0000001% possibility of a new elemental mage class that might have use of the elestave, and in the case that there were a new elemental class the creators would gladly say the elestave also includes them in intended group of classes. The burden is clearly on you to prove something you can't prove.

Regarding your bishop rebuttle, restricting a certain class from using a subset of stave would be similar to restrictions they put on numerous items in the game. Male/female, fame equips, class, level, stats. Unless you are a GMS coder level coder, I don't think any of us can say anything about how difficult/easy it would be to restrict a Bishops from wielding a sub-set of staves. And I am beginning to seriously think you think you are a mind-reader now. How can you say you know what they wanted or didn't want. That info is in their brains for them to keep unless they explicitly make a public statement about period. It could go either way, your theory or what I said about how the natural description of the item gives a penalty to bishops.

I don't even know why you inserted that last line lol. I'm in no way heated up about this. I sincerely enjoy talking about maple I hope you feel the same way cuz I feel like saying 'y u so med tho'.