2011-02-27, 03:37 AM
First off, kanevalider, your hypocrisy is astounding. You claim the only "truth" in this matter with regards to factual debate lies in disseminating the bill itself. You've bashed news sources by quite literally saying, to an effect, than ANY news source from the media is false/illogical/incorrect. So, I ask you, how do you get your news? How do you know that anything reported upon in any part of the world is actually true, if the "media" is always false? This is one of your glaring logical fallacies.
Going along the same sentiment, how do you know unions are busing people from out of state if you don't believe any media source is truthful/factual? How can you claim teachers in Wisconsin make 100k a year if you don't believe any media source is truthful/factual? Essentially all you've said is that the only "truth" in this matter lies in the bill itself, yet the bill doesn't address half the "factual claims" you've attempted to make. And you wonder why we laugh at you? You're blatantly hypocritical, as I've outlined.
But if we are to address some of your factual claims, as based on what was stated in the bill, let's start by discussing how collective bargaining would be allowed only on wage increases up to the rate of inflation. You act like that's more than enough. I can flat-out tell you it's not, as collective bargaining is necessary for maintaining reasonable class room sizes, curriculum decisions, TA flexibilities, and other important factors that affect the quality of education in Wisconsin. Let's not forget, also, this is just teachers. You claim that unions are "collectively bargaining to get paid for no reason." You believe union workers do nothing but sit on their asses draining money from taxpayers? These are the people who plow your streets when it snows. Who arrest the people who ruin communities. Who put out fires that threaten loved ones. And you claim they do NOTHING BUT peach FOR MONEY? pineapple you. Like seriously? I spoke earlier about the importance of the actual content of union jobs towards the upkeep of society, and you piss on that saying they're only in things for the money. I can't explain how upset I am right now by your utter ignorance at what runs a community.
Going along the same sentiment, how do you know unions are busing people from out of state if you don't believe any media source is truthful/factual? How can you claim teachers in Wisconsin make 100k a year if you don't believe any media source is truthful/factual? Essentially all you've said is that the only "truth" in this matter lies in the bill itself, yet the bill doesn't address half the "factual claims" you've attempted to make. And you wonder why we laugh at you? You're blatantly hypocritical, as I've outlined.
But if we are to address some of your factual claims, as based on what was stated in the bill, let's start by discussing how collective bargaining would be allowed only on wage increases up to the rate of inflation. You act like that's more than enough. I can flat-out tell you it's not, as collective bargaining is necessary for maintaining reasonable class room sizes, curriculum decisions, TA flexibilities, and other important factors that affect the quality of education in Wisconsin. Let's not forget, also, this is just teachers. You claim that unions are "collectively bargaining to get paid for no reason." You believe union workers do nothing but sit on their asses draining money from taxpayers? These are the people who plow your streets when it snows. Who arrest the people who ruin communities. Who put out fires that threaten loved ones. And you claim they do NOTHING BUT peach FOR MONEY? pineapple you. Like seriously? I spoke earlier about the importance of the actual content of union jobs towards the upkeep of society, and you piss on that saying they're only in things for the money. I can't explain how upset I am right now by your utter ignorance at what runs a community.