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Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) policy fully repealed!
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Jamie, I think what you don't get in the end (and which is understandable since you're not LGBT) is that the vast majority of us already fully comprehend the entire cornerstone of your argument revolving around open publicity of one's sexual orientation. We're not stupid. We get the implications of acting or even saying what we are in various public situations, and how there are some places it's more accepted, and how in some it's best to cover it up for the sole purpose of personal safety, be it with regards to physical or mental health. You don't give LGBT people enough credit for already philosophizing over all of these issues, whether they're in the Armed Forces or not.

Also, please do your research before making false comments, or proposing rhetorical questions with answers you don't even know or provide, and thus are most likely irrelevant or, to use your previous term with my content, "inappropriate" for the debate at hand:

Example:
Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:The pentagon and government leaders spew politics to make things sound good, seem appealing, and butter us up to think, "maybe it will all be okay".

The Pentagon Study I posted earlier that you ignored; look it up if you don't believe the following Wrote:The Pentagon survey found that some two-thirds of troops don't care if the ban is lifted. Of the 30 percent who objected, most of them were in combat units.

Opposition was strongest among combat troops, with at least 40 percent saying repeal would be a bad idea. That number climbed to 58 percent among Marines serving in combat roles.

A summary of the report said 69 percent of respondents believed they had already served alongside a gay person. Of those who believed that, 92 percent said their units were able to work together and 8 percent said the units functioned poorly as a result.

"We have a gay guy. He's big, he's mean and he kills lots of bad guys. No one cared that he was gay," the report quotes a member of the special operations force as saying.

The report says that many gay troops would be likely to keep their sexual orientation quiet even after the ban was lifted. That discretion would probably be more common in the military than in the civilian world, the report's authors said.

Of those respondents who said they were gay, only 15 percent said they would want that known to everyone in their unit.

The summary included anonymous quotes from gay troops currently serving.

"I will just be me," one person said. "I will bring my family to family events. I will put family pictures on my desk. I am not going to go up to people and say, 'Hi there. I'm gay.'"

While clearly some troops have an issue with the repeal, the vast majority (see: 2/3) are fine with it. Plus, the contention your arguing about mass open gay flaunting is factually disproven in the above quote as well. Glad I could do your research for you.

And finally,

Jamie_Kurosawa Wrote:How were homosexuals treated in the military BEFORE the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law was original enacted?

You tell us. You brought up the question to bolster your argument, so bring in the evidentiary support to make the question relevant. Otherwise, you're just throwing around rhetoric with no purpose and wasting bandwidth.


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Don't Ask, Don't Tell (DADT) policy fully repealed! - by FrozNlite - 2010-12-19, 11:24 AM

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