The "Bishop Ult vs. AM Ult" thread

1st job would have them being roughly 80% as strong as normal
2nd job, assuming the heal formula people live by is accurate, would have a slight advantage in damage
3rd job, damage is irrelevant and no matter what would be trumped by other party members
4th job they'd be noticeably weaker

Oh and they'd have practically no MP due to having so little int.

MP Increase. They'll still have plenty of MP. At level 100 you're looking at around 2000 MP less. Seems like a lot, but it's no big deal really. No one gets even close to being 1hko'd with MG on in any practical situation.

Raising luk unduely would not only lower your chances of dealing better damage, but it wouldn't really give an effective advantage in any worthwhile way. It would be mildly useful for a CLERIC in 2ND JOB ONLY, but the cost of being weaker in general (and only a little stronger with Heal) and having less MP isn't worth it.

And a hell lot of avoid.

Magicians aren't every other class. One magic attack affects a Magician much less than one weapon attack affects other classes. This is why it is not reasonable to say "other classes need many secondary stat to get attack, so magicians should require many secondary stat to get THEIR attack". No. Also: it takes a lot more than 3 secondary stat to get one weapon attack... their PRIMARY stat doesn't even have as a strong a turnout as that (I think it's around 5~10 of the primary AP to get one weapon attack usually).

Read. I said 3 secondary stat equals 1 primary stat. Not 3 secondary stat equals 1 attack. Mages are a special case since 1 primary stat equals 1 attack, but primary and secondary should still be proportional.

Luk actually gives either equal or greater magical accuracy than int. Being pure luk wouldn't make them have any more misses.

I meant player avoid, monster acc. Who doesn't want a bishop with the avoid of a dexless NL?

Like I said already, the INTENSELY minor advantage of being pure luk would be GROSSLY outweighed by the cost: weaker in general, way too little MP. And the only advantage would be to have Heal damage be a bit stronger (again, assuming the formula is entirely accurate), and that "advantage" would only carry CLERICS through 2ND JOB ONLY. It really is like HP warriors-- tough time through 1st job, 2nd job made a lot easier, but useless at high levels.

80% power is not "useless". You might as well say that all existing normal LUK magicians are "useless".