The "Bishop Ult vs. AM Ult" thread

Once every 5, or even 8 seconds is not beyond functionality. Especially when you consider you already have to stand still for 3 seconds while casting the current Genesis.

You make it slow enough and it's only practical applications become the instances where they are insanely strong now. What you're suggesting strips functionality from their fairer, more typical uses, and makes it such that the only times they are functionally useful are the rare circumstances where their power now is identified as too strong. Basically, you cut out the fair areas of use and make them only applicable in instances which are now unfair.

To be blunt, I'd be needing to hit like 8+ at once every time or I'd be wasting my time. And no, Bishops can't just rely on their other attacks. Without Genesis, Bishops are NOTHING.

Is 0.8*INT really that much worse than 1*INT? If you had 600 INT, you'd be losing 120 magic there.

I'm gonna stop you right there.

You're missing the point. You shouldn't be trying to make lukless builds weaker. You should be trying to make luk builds stronger. Rather than thinking "pumpernickel lukless is too strong, make them weaker", you should be thinking "wow luk builds are weaker, they should be stronger". Rather than making lukless build suck to motivate players to use the "right" build, you should- duh- make the "right" build worthwhile. What I have suggested would do this: make luk add magic. If luk added .8 magic for each point a player has of luk, a person could use a 113 requirement Dragon Wand and have an additional 90 magic on top of their weapon's 127 base avg stats, making for a worth of 217 magic clean. Compare this 217 worth to the worth of the level 130 lukless wand: a worth of 145 (assuming elemental boost is not a factor, because if it is, then those things are unbeatable regardless of what balancing is attempted).