The "Bishop Ult vs. AM Ult" thread

The MP consumption for genesis is literally half of blizzard/meteo like you mentioned; but what's equally important to notice is that the damage is very very similar; technically speaking, since blizzard/meteo costs 2x as much as genesis, genesis should be doing half the damage... or at least significantly lower, but it's not.

I guess AM would do more damage with elemental staffs/wands and training in a place with an advantage to their element.

Genesis at level 1 has a 440 spell attack. blizzard/meteo has a base of 330. With amp, that's 446. 440 costing 2.1k mp vs 446 costing 4.2k. Genesis clearly wins in terms of "better". At level 30, blizzard/meteo gains a slightly higher advantage but that fact that it costs 7k mp, it isn't cheap.

Maybe when Wizet designed the 3rd job skills, they actually wanted Mages to max Amp.

Genesis is faster than a level 11+ boost. You can't say this isn't important when you "kill everything in one hit". Because the majority of the magicians do not one hit kill everything. Both archmages and bishops. Even if they do 1 hit, then genesis casting faster means the got more hits in in 1 minute.

Spawn delay. Please tell me you've never noticed spawn delay when you're using either of the ultimates 1-2 hitting everything.

Skeles are holy weak. Newties are neutral. Genesis gains a 1.5k damage boost over blizzard/meteo. This can be fixed with newer training spots coming out that would favor archmages but newer spots aren't out yet.

Agreed.