2010-03-23, 02:07 PM
SOCIALISM IN THE UNITED STATES!
And to add to these lists of scary socialist services already productively running in the United States: public education, the postal service, public libraries.
Look at all of these facets of our American society. Would you like to lose any of them? They're socialist, so please, any argument you have against universal healthcare when specifically regarding it as socialist, I invite you to direct towards these fine institutions.
Oh, and let me throw this out there as well: funny how everyone who is complaining about the negative aspects of universal health care as they operate in other countries are all Americans. I have yet to see a resident of a country with socialized medicine condemn the institution. In fact, the even funnier thing is that if you talk to both liberals and conservatives in these countries (like Michael Moore did in Canada in Sicko), they all strongly support the system. Just saying.
One last comment: A LOT of argument has gone on regarding "lazy unemployed people taking advantage of government welfare checks." Here's all I have to say to that:
Proof? I've heard this contention for years now and have never seen one statistic or figure showing the number of people who truly fall into this category. Oh, and @ Canambo's comment earlier regarding people having "20 children for welfare checks": good joke. There's a middle-class American couple that recently made the People magazine cover again for having their 19th child. I think if lazy, unemployed mothers were trying to leech the welfare system by having 20+ children we'd have heard by now.
Eosian Wrote:If what you've said were remotely true we'd not have a tiered tax system, social security, social security disability insurance, medicare, WIC, rehabilitation & wellfare of any other kind or any other socialism concepts.
Sarah Wrote:For everyone bitching about socialism... you do realise your police and fire forces are "socialized", right? I guess if socialism is so bad you'd be fine with paying the police force to track down the person who mugged you, or to put out that fire in your house.
And to add to these lists of scary socialist services already productively running in the United States: public education, the postal service, public libraries.
Look at all of these facets of our American society. Would you like to lose any of them? They're socialist, so please, any argument you have against universal healthcare when specifically regarding it as socialist, I invite you to direct towards these fine institutions.
Oh, and let me throw this out there as well: funny how everyone who is complaining about the negative aspects of universal health care as they operate in other countries are all Americans. I have yet to see a resident of a country with socialized medicine condemn the institution. In fact, the even funnier thing is that if you talk to both liberals and conservatives in these countries (like Michael Moore did in Canada in Sicko), they all strongly support the system. Just saying.
One last comment: A LOT of argument has gone on regarding "lazy unemployed people taking advantage of government welfare checks." Here's all I have to say to that:
Proof? I've heard this contention for years now and have never seen one statistic or figure showing the number of people who truly fall into this category. Oh, and @ Canambo's comment earlier regarding people having "20 children for welfare checks": good joke. There's a middle-class American couple that recently made the People magazine cover again for having their 19th child. I think if lazy, unemployed mothers were trying to leech the welfare system by having 20+ children we'd have heard by now.