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Abortion- but for men.
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BombsAway Wrote:Sorry, I wasn't referring to male abortionists when I used the term coward. I meant the guys who just take off without saying anything. If you can't handle it there are still more tactful ways to deal with it then running away like so many men do.

And no, I understand that some men would definitely be hurt by it and it would stick with them for a long time, and that's why I said what I said. But it's the woman's body and carrying children is actually risky for some women. As selfish as it is for a woman to remove something you want, it's just as selfish to ask her to carry something she doesn't want for nine months. Requesting support for a child you both had a hand in creating, however, is not selfish. Well... some women are gross about it and expect men to carry them completely but the logic behind child support is not flawed.

Well, yes, they ARE cowards.

Requesting help for a child you both had a hand in creating is not selfish, but with all the things that go around it, it IS selfish. A woman has the legal right to demand help from a man who gets absolutely no say in the outcome, and even has the abilities to deny the man part in what he is supporting. Equal part in creation, but not equal rights. It's not fair. The fact that it's risky for some women to carry children really doesn't have a place in the male abortion argument. You're saying that to ask a woman to carry something she doesn't want for 9 months isn't right, but that has no relevance to this argument. The male abortion is about the man not wanting the child, so what reason would the woman have to keep it for if neither wanted it anyway? If you're going to say it is because I said "the woman can even terminate against the man's wishes" that is not saying she shouldn't be able to, it is just an illustration of how men have no rights.

Quote:The bright side of this is that if a man is able to get a woman pregnant and due to her decision ends up losing it, at least he can be sure he's fertile and could start a family with a woman who wants to carry a baby if that's truly what he desires. Hopefully those men would be able to get past the bitterness of the experience to get to that point.

Oh Sarah, you can do better than this XD

Quote:Except that there's a huge precedent of men already abusing it. It's not the fault of men as a whole but it's the fault of the majority of jerkbags that stuff sucks for nice guys.

This door swings both ways. There was a study done on separated parents where the mother had custody, and roughly three quarters of fathers were unhappy with their visitation and even felt as if they were being kept from their child.

Heidi Wrote:Rick, you seem to not understand that for a female to get an abortion isn't just "whatever". Many people are against the idea for religious reasons or personal beliefs.

That is, again, ultimately her decision. And then there is adoption.
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Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 12:01 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Tay - 2010-01-17, 12:05 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by god - 2010-01-17, 12:44 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 12:50 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-17, 12:54 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by hyperhopper - 2010-01-17, 12:57 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2010-01-17, 01:00 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 01:01 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by hyperhopper - 2010-01-17, 01:02 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 01:07 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by hyperhopper - 2010-01-17, 01:09 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 01:12 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2010-01-17, 01:12 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Holypie - 2010-01-17, 01:13 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by hyperhopper - 2010-01-17, 01:17 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2010-01-17, 01:19 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 01:21 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by whybanme - 2010-01-17, 01:29 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Adramelech - 2010-01-17, 02:06 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by hyperhopper - 2010-01-17, 02:23 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Eos - 2010-01-17, 02:23 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kalovale - 2010-01-17, 02:30 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by butterfλi - 2010-01-17, 02:31 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 02:35 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kalovale - 2010-01-17, 02:39 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 02:45 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Katie - 2010-01-17, 02:50 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kalovale - 2010-01-17, 02:52 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 02:57 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Eos - 2010-01-17, 02:59 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Nikkey - 2010-01-17, 02:59 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 03:05 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kalovale - 2010-01-17, 03:15 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Doxinator - 2010-01-17, 03:20 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by English - 2010-01-17, 03:32 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Heidi - 2010-01-17, 03:32 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-17, 03:36 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Cactuar - 2010-01-17, 03:41 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Heidi - 2010-01-17, 03:44 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Nikkey - 2010-01-17, 03:45 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Cactuar - 2010-01-17, 04:01 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Mira - 2010-01-17, 04:14 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Nikkey - 2010-01-17, 04:30 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Hazzy - 2010-01-17, 04:34 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Katie - 2010-01-17, 04:52 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Eos - 2010-01-17, 04:56 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by shouri - 2010-01-17, 06:48 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kalovale - 2010-01-18, 12:05 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Hazzy - 2010-01-18, 01:00 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by TøbiasBlack - 2010-01-18, 01:37 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by shouri - 2010-01-18, 02:23 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Super_cyp - 2010-01-18, 07:57 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Cyadd - 2010-01-18, 08:36 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by shouri - 2010-01-18, 08:50 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-18, 09:12 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Adramelech - 2010-01-18, 09:23 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Dual - 2010-01-18, 09:26 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Heidi - 2010-01-18, 09:28 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Doxinator - 2010-01-19, 01:49 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Hazzy - 2010-01-19, 02:21 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Super_cyp - 2010-01-19, 06:35 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-19, 06:43 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by bored4ever86 - 2010-01-19, 08:01 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by MasPan - 2010-01-19, 08:06 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-19, 08:18 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Xiyuuna - 2010-01-19, 01:33 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by xBTAx - 2010-01-19, 08:51 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-19, 09:37 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Hazzy - 2010-01-19, 10:40 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Cynic - 2010-01-19, 10:56 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kabanaw - 2010-01-19, 11:42 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Cynic - 2010-01-20, 12:06 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kalovale - 2010-01-20, 01:13 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Derimed - 2010-01-20, 05:15 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rob - 2010-01-20, 05:23 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Kabanaw - 2010-01-20, 05:28 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Derimed - 2010-01-20, 05:35 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Xiyuuna - 2010-01-20, 07:55 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-21, 02:10 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Derimed - 2010-01-21, 02:15 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-21, 02:19 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Sarah - 2010-01-21, 02:37 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Cynic - 2010-01-21, 02:48 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-21, 02:55 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Sarah - 2010-01-21, 03:14 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-21, 04:04 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Sarah - 2010-01-21, 05:44 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Heidi - 2010-01-21, 06:54 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-21, 07:11 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Sarah - 2010-01-21, 10:03 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Cactuar - 2010-01-21, 10:56 AM
Abortion- but for men. - by Derimed - 2010-01-21, 01:18 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Sarah - 2010-01-21, 04:11 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-21, 08:33 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Sarah - 2010-01-21, 08:39 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by Rick - 2010-01-21, 08:48 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by MasPan - 2010-01-21, 09:03 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by xBTAx - 2010-01-21, 09:58 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by thistwilight - 2010-01-23, 08:45 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-23, 10:44 PM
Abortion- but for men. - by thistwilight - 2010-01-24, 02:48 AM

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