Abortion- but for men.

Well that's the main problem, the decision to keep or abort a child is NOT one made by both people. Each person can have an input, yes, but when it comes down to it the decision legally lies with the woman. And abortion / 'killing' isn't the ONLY other option, there is also adoption.

That's what I meant by suffer for the rest of their lives. It's not easy to give up a child after giving birth to it and many women spend the rest of their lives thinking about that child because it was a part of them. That's scarring. Every possible option for a woman is difficult without the support of someone else. I'm not saying it's not difficult for men, because I'm sure even cowards feel bad for a while but there's no physical toll and judging by experience (deadbeat family members) very little remorse after a while. I feel for men not getting a choice, and honestly I think if I were in that position and didn't want a child and the father did, I would go through with it because any other option is probably worse mentally. But, as has been said many times, regardless of which decision is made, the choice will take a toll on a woman and that's why they get that power.

As for a man not wanting to be a part of his child's life, in some scenarios that is not the case. Some women leave the man, gain custody because the courts heavily favour women, and then they deny visitation rights while sucking up the child support. Don't deny it, it happens more than it should. And it shouldn't happen.

Of course it shouldn't but that's not the fault of women as a whole and shouldn't be cause for consideration of a "get-out-of-jail-free card." That's a legal issue. But even then, the men who really want to be a part of that child's life will fight it with every ounce of their strength. It happens, but not as often as it should.

Just recently there was a case about a young boy who's mother took him to australia or new zealand and then died and the boy went into custody of his step father when his real dad should've had custody and wanted custody. His mother didn't want him to have custody when she died. But that father spent five years fighting and on December 24th got his son back. If more men were as passionate as that man then I think there would be more consideration for them in the courts, but as it stands there's an overwhelming number of deadbeats and that is why such judgments are made. It's not fair but there are ways to fight it.

I MUST have misunderstood you, but it sounds like you are saying men ASK to have no legal rights. As for fathers raising children alone, it does happen but not often, because again, courts are heavily in favour of women. I know when my parents split, my mother got myself and both my brothers (not that I am complaining, she is an awesome woman, but my father was an awesome man).

Refer to above comments. Both of my parents were equally capable of caring for us as children but my dad wanted us more. If more men were like that then court judgments would be much different (since rulings are generally based on precedent in the end. If most dads are deadbeats then it follows that the woman should typically get the child.)