2010-01-21, 02:10 AM
Derimed Wrote:A woman that has the child IS stuck with that child. I know two women who are both intelligent, capable and kind people, but deadbeats knocked them up and fled. By the definitions of this thread, they did the "male abortion," because neither of them pays child support or is in the life of the woman or the child. They are out there, fuucking lots and lots of women, while my friends are stuck with their bastard children, and both of these women's lives have been fuucked up by this. One of them got accepted to Northwestern university, (a very good school,) but now she works a lowly job, struggling to make ends meet, while the police can't even locate the deadbeat. The other woman, one of my best friends DID allow the dead beat to get off child support because that revoked his visitation and custody rights, and now she doesn't have to deal with the scumbag. In other words, this male abortion crap IS currently available, but only if the woman chooses it. Your "male abortion" is basically an easy way out for the deadbeat dad, so he doesn't have to pay for what he did. If you were to legalize this bull$hit, you would completely absolve every man from his parental responsibilities. Rick, to be honest, I am kinda surprised to see you advocating such an argument. If a lawmaker proposed what you're sayign in Congress, he would be laughed out of the building, and then laughed out of office by the voters.
If you have sex, you are taking a risk. If a pregnancy occurs, that is a possible outcome of the risk you took for the sexual pleasure with the woman. A lot of men want to have sex without a condom, and I suspect a lot of unwanted pregnancies result that way. If you give the option that the OP proposes, you are 100% allowing the deadbeat to get away with being a deadbeat. You will have tons more scummy men sugar-talking women into having sex, and then walking away from the responsibility it entails.
Well there are two things to say.
1) Did the men abandon them well in to pregnancy (well past the point of an abortion). If yes, then no, this does not fit the male abortion. Acting within that time frame is a requirement.
2) If they did abandon them during that time frame, the women still chose to keep the baby.
As for the having sex being a risk part, yes it is. But it is not fair to say "if you are a woman, you're allowed a back door. If you're a man, hope like hell the woman listens to you". And as for men wanting to have sex without a condom, you are assuming that pregnancy is therefore the man's fault, whereas women also have contraception open to them.