Two bigfoots - Poll of boredom ;D

How weak do you have to be to not be able to KB Bigfoot? His KB is only 2k, isn't it? No one before 4th job should be fighting BF, anyway. Can't 12x BMs KB him with their crits? As long as you can KB with at least your crits (or some of your crits), you won't lose any ground using Puppet to hold him in the middle of the map. Heck, as long as you stay focused and recast Puppet right away, you won't lose ground even without KB.

I think it's just your use of "lose ground" that is confusing/bothering me. The only way you have to retreat and re-situate yourself is when a Jr Wraith hits you like right when Puppet disappears (or you dose off or something). Barring Jr Wraiths (not hard to keep them off you, anyway), how do you lose ground using Puppet?

By Puppet alone I assumed you meant using Puppet as the source of holding him, rather than using a wall. You meant using ONLY Puppet and no attacking skills...? Or what? That's pretty silly to even say. Puppet is nearly as effective as a wall, if you're good at using it. But obviously you have to attack. Lol

This is what happens when you don't read the rest of the thread. DrRusty proposed raising the KB to 15k. That's what prompted me to say that you can't hold Bigfoot back with Puppet alone.