2016-10-19, 09:51 AM
Eos Wrote:You'd be surprised how few people actually care about most of the things you hold strong convictions about.
Concepts like the morality of the government are actually pretty intangible to the average person who doesn't have the time or energy to care.
Most people don't have trust to begin with, they just don't care because it isn't meaningful to begin with. They spend their entire lives expecting to have no control over who is in power or how they got there with barely a glimmer of pretense of their own mattering in the grand scheme of things. In order for them to achieve a righteous outage over it they'd need to first attain a sense of entitlement to what it is you claim they're being robbed of to begin with.
Doesn't particularly matter to me if it actually has a lasting effect on other people, all I care about is that people can no longer call me a crazy tinfoil without looking silly with all of the proof out there. They may believe what they say, but I no longer have to doubt myself regardless of what is said, because proof is on my side.
By the way, I thought people in this country were -supposed- to be entitled to freedom.
xparasite9 Wrote:https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ema...#efmATGATb
but thanks for correcting the record regarding entitlement!
While I agree that dismissing the arguments because they take too much effort to delve into/you simply don't care falls directly into the establishment's plans, no need to bring /pol/ here, over half the posts on there right now are CTR and once you see their posting patterns you can single them out immediately, and they are much more obvious in their viewpoints (because they are being paid for them, so they don't really have any emotional investment in right vs. wrong).
and as a short continuation on that point
Eos Wrote:In a related corollary, some people will go to any lengths to insist they're being robbed of something they never had to begin with but feel entitled to have even though they also also have no meaningful plan or use for it if it were in fact handed to them.
If you take any stock into what the media and even Hillary are currently saying, /pol/ is currently directly influencing the election. So much so that they believe it is a collaboration of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, when in reality it is only a couple thousand unique IPs total that are actually doing anything; with the internet, even nobodies can now influence things that are important, so saying there is "no meaningful plan to use the information" is a very fatalistic viewpoint when there is also proof on the contrary for that. The best pieces of data we collect and sift through goes on to conservative media outlets (MSM aside from Fox won't touch it because anything anti-Hillary is blacklisted, but a media outlet is still a media outlet no matter how small or "biased", and it is having a real, legitimate effect on the election, Hillary should have had this locked up months ago if it weren't for "nobodies" on the internet constantly digging up new things on how much of a pomegranatety person she really is). Dismissing information because "I can't do anything or influence anything with it anyway, so why even bother" is a last century viewpoint, until the internet is locked down like China's, information spreads regardless of how hard it is suppressed.

