2013-10-26, 03:58 PM
Yeah, with this generation, it's more apparent that no one pokemon can do everything on its own. All grass support moves will share the same fate on being less effective to useless on things such as the same type, sap sipper, or stuff with safety goggles.
Maybe you can try sun/chlorophyll teams. Ninetails with drought and solar beam. It can also be pretty flexible for stalling and support, even though using subtitutes is less viable now. I know hypnosis is unreliable, but still an option. Liligant (with quiver dance), victreelbel, Vileplume, or leafeon for the less defense inclined. If not, bulky waters as you suggested. But I guess the biggest problem is that they're all pretty slow, they'll need support like tailwind or something to help them pull off what they need to do.
Maybe you can try sun/chlorophyll teams. Ninetails with drought and solar beam. It can also be pretty flexible for stalling and support, even though using subtitutes is less viable now. I know hypnosis is unreliable, but still an option. Liligant (with quiver dance), victreelbel, Vileplume, or leafeon for the less defense inclined. If not, bulky waters as you suggested. But I guess the biggest problem is that they're all pretty slow, they'll need support like tailwind or something to help them pull off what they need to do.

